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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Jan 11, 2019 17:18:21 GMT
Yeah, I know, blindwilly3fingers . I even had a word with Tony Bacon about it barely being mentioned in his book. The SE was a cheaper version that you see regularly for sale second hand. It came in a 'stop dreaming start playing' pack with an amp but is rarely, if ever, seen for resale with an amp. Black Squier logo with STRAT after it. Full size body, sealed tuners and something like an agathis body. No 'Affinity on headstock and never a 70s big headstock. Good modding platform a bit better than a Bullet and cheap as chips second hand because there were so many of them. Here's one.
Thanks for that, I did wonder about that model with the small headstock and strat logo but no affinity bit. I downloaded a squire thingy about a year ago its got literally dozens of model specs. I find it mind boggling there are so many variations with only minor differences. I get the differences with the likes of the standards, classic vibe etc. Both of mine as I said are Chinese from the same factory both maple fretboard although one is 4 years older the stock parts are exactly the same. Pots, caps, tuners everything but the colour. Yet you see the same guitar made in the same year different country of origin and there are noticeable differences. I,e skunk stripe, tuners etc. I can't say if the internal components are the same. It's quite bewildering and something I haven't noticed on other brands.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Jan 11, 2019 17:24:49 GMT
The Squier Deluxe is the one to go for There was even one with Hot Rails… Be careful, though, my Squier Deluxe is a Jazz Bass. At the price point that retails at I'd probably looking at other brands. Don't get me wrong that is probably a very good guitar. But I'm not really a strat person.
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eddie
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Post by eddie on Jan 20, 2019 15:53:36 GMT
I want to move along to the Squiers. Color me boastful if you wish but I was amongo the first to buy a JV 57 model back in the day. They had just arrived in the shop and I was amazed at the quality at that price point. We compared them side by side with USA Fenders and really it just came down to the decal on the headstock. Such great guitars. I have owned later Squiers, Korea etc but they were nowhere near the quality of the Japanese. I'm a big fan of Squiers. I currently have 12 modded Squier NC Stratocasters (NC's are a specific model made in the Yako Music Factory between 1994 and 1997). One more is in the mail. Full body, wide neck, pool routing ... great for modding. I've never owned a JV. I'd love to have one. I've owned the CV's and VM's ... but they never connected. Not a fan of the thin neck. I even picked up the new Contemporary Strats ... only to re-sell them later on.
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Post by eddie on Jan 20, 2019 16:03:38 GMT
DefJef There is an article somewhere that suggests that the Fender Japan division actually saved the parent company from going bust but I cannot find it at all. Looking back at the 80's. We might read somewhere that you could not give Gibson Les Pauls away. This is not true because I would have taken them all gladly. However it seemed most younger players wanted strats, but not made by Fender. Jacksons, Ibanez and Charvels were the plat du jour and they had to have pointy headstocks with big dive all locking tremolo systems. Fender responded with the Contemporary series but it was not so well received. Maybe the headstocks were just not quite sharp enough. Whatever, it didn't gel with the hair-lacquer and it was doomed to fail. While this was happening a war between Kahler and Floyd Rose users emerged but we have moved on* Too funny. I remember those days. My first guitar was an alpine white Gibson Les Paul Custom that my dad brought for me in 1984 when I was 14. He wanted to buy me a guitar which wouldn't stunt my growth. I never appreciated it because of the BS just mentioned with the super strats and pointy guitars. My greatest regret in life was selling that Gibby when I was 18 in 1988 for an ESP Mirage Deluxe. Worst decision of my life ... *to the apple v android battle.
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Post by eddie on Jan 20, 2019 16:07:53 GMT
I have three Squier SEs. They all have very different necks and one is much heavier than the other two. One of them is my favourite strat for tone and beautiful stability of the floating trem. It never goes out of tune due to trem use. And I have an Affinity. The body thinness put me off at first but I grew to like it. It's one of the few I've found with a maple fretboard which feels really nicely rounded. The heaviest SE has sounded like pants twice, both with its stock ceramics and with some replacement, no name Chinese alnicos. They're all Chinese. What is the SE excuse my ignorance, I have seen SQ stated as a model I know the bullet, affinity, contemporary, standard and classic vibe. I know affinity has thinner body but are they mainly cosmetic variations on the other models? To be honest it looses me all the different names for basically the same guitar. A Squier SE came with the starter packs with amp, stand, cords, etc. They were made from around 2000-2010 (I think it's around 2010). I can't be certain of the ending date. What makes them desirable is the full sized body. Modders want them to mess around with. It'll fit a full sized MIM trem block without the ends sticking out the back like on the thinner bodied Affinities and Bullets.
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Post by eddie on Jan 20, 2019 16:26:20 GMT
This book is really fun to read. The Squiers were so good that sales reps would gulp and wonder how they would break the news to head office that they'd gone and picked up a shop order for 400 of them. They were killing Fender! I'm thinking of getting this book. But honestly, the best place for Squier information is over at www.squier-talk.comThe guys are great over there and tons/tons/tons of information on Squiers. It's my second home.
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