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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 14:05:49 GMT
I did wonder if this pedal would be good for recording but I don't think so. I guess you will get the answer if I ask you to do the drums for my Samsara riff which is in 13/7 or was it 13/8 Im happy to report that my Casio keybaord has drum loops that suit my Samsara and other riffs with unusual time sigs. They are all part of the drumms under World Rhytm (Ethnic beats). Actually the Cha Cha Cha was perfectly fine for the my original Samsara riff (not the one you and I re-made in Wales to suit the 7/6 or else). I would not know how to do the fills as you need to know when to press it but I like the fact it has Alt rhythm which is usually the one I gravitate towards. Imhappy it can offer me proper beats for whatever time sig I come up with. There is no time sig indication only BPM but I can find it by browsing and testing which is also fine. This keybaord cost less than these drum machine pedals and sure can offer much more as a whole package (for recording demos that is, not in live situtations).
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Post by DefJef on Jan 7, 2019 14:23:29 GMT
Maybe the SingularSound Beatbuddy pedal would be more down your street. Pricey though. Yeah, you get what you pay for for sure, salteedog. I think, even with the Beat Buddy you take what you're given and can twist it a bit but you are given a heck of a lot more to twist in the first place. Not sure you can actually program the beats into it but I may be wrong or it may come in a firmware update. Even the Beat Buddy seems to have a bit of a basher drummer inside it. I've not heard any delicate feel playing at all and that is what is so hard to find amongst drummers too. Everyone I meet seems to think that drumming like you're in the Foo Fighters is some kind of ideal and absolutely perfect for every situation!
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Post by salteedog on Jan 7, 2019 14:27:54 GMT
I always admired Jimmy Chamberlain's (of Samshing Pumpkins) drumming. Not surprised to find out he originally started out on jazz.
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Post by DefJef on Jan 7, 2019 16:14:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 6:21:57 GMT
Its the same with my CASIO being able to do various Bass guitar sounds but to be honest it just aint the same. Sure the single notes sound like a bass and even when I hit the key hard I can get that string attack sound BUT where are all the slides, hammer ons, pull offs, chukking, muting, ya know all those ghost notes that make bass sound so awesome. So I went ahead and bought the Shorty Bass instead Maybe you should just buy a real drum set Millenium has those digital sets!
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Post by salteedog on Jan 8, 2019 10:28:19 GMT
I dunno. It just a noise making machine like all the others we use to make music. It has it's place. And yes - that place is not your place.
Music genres appropriate certain sounds and styles. And those sounds become signifiers of the genre. Traditionalists within those genres dislike going over the boundaries. But there will always be adventurers who break through the boundaries eventually.
Like the Roland TR-808 and 90's house music, if the SDRUM found utility with the right group of successful musicians then your hypothetical echo chamber could be a reality. Until the adventurers break the walls and build new echo chambers of their own.
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Post by DefJef on Jan 8, 2019 11:11:51 GMT
I was willing to try and make this thing do stuff it wasn't designed to. I really hated the way it wants to dominate the drums with an initial kick and snare setup. That snare was too much of a crack, so I found that, by turning the tempo incredibly slow, I was able to whack a more varied kick only track into its limited two bars of 4/4, although it was quite an art to keep in time! By turning the tempo back up again this paid some dividends but then meant that it couldn't generate interesting hi hat stuff.
In a way it was neither good at being monotonously predictable so that your ears kind of ignored it, like that War On Drugs style of drum machine, nor was it great at being Stewart Copeland. It stood out all the time but only to show how unmusical it was. And, no matter how calm and metronomic you might manage to make it by keeping things simple and attempting to limit the drums used, it had no override when it came to a fill or a transition between sections. I may have been limiting a pattern to just kick, toms and rides but, come a transition and, apparently, a drummer would then hit everything he could very loudly as though they'd sampled Yoko Ono having a bust up with Ringo. Imagine listening to Spirit of Eden but with Keith Moon doing just the fills.
It's just too limited in its sounds and control over its behaviour for it to be anything other than a novelty. All of your songs would soon have no signature sound of their own. The best I managed in trying to get some individuality was to whack it through some big reverb where the cymbals still sounded terrible but couldn't be told to not play ever, or else into a delay where some polyrhythms began to emerge but fills would make a mess of them. I would certainly want something more flexible than that. Definitely not for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 20:43:29 GMT
Here you can choose what kind of drummer you need
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 20:53:59 GMT
I dont need anything special from a drummer, this one would be totally ok for my band
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Post by salteedog on Jan 9, 2019 22:29:29 GMT
I could never understand why some drummers need huge drum-kits with two kick drums and a pile of toms and whatnot.....it seems to be an invitation to engage in (horror!) drum soloing...
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