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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Sept 6, 2019 20:49:36 GMT
Perhaps instead of minor cosmetic flaws, there are some build flaws? This is just a guess ttmax
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Sept 6, 2019 22:55:28 GMT
Hope fully I am wrong and it is very minor faults, and Thomann are giving better discount to make the Bstock a more attractive deal for someone who can remedy the faults cheaply?
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DefJef
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Post by DefJef on Sept 6, 2019 22:57:31 GMT
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Sept 6, 2019 23:01:33 GMT
If that's what's wrong with them? I'm buying Bstock tomorrow. 😂 😂 😂
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Sept 7, 2019 9:28:57 GMT
Normally they indicate only slight traces of use (but it is only a diction) I bought a pair of B-stocks and only a few slight imperfections were acceptable, I took one with a problem for the tuners, they changed them, one instead sent back had a beautiful 2cm barrel repaired with hand paint. The problem is not "what the B-stocks have" is just luck from my point of view, but to understand why I see (I haven't looked at the whole catalog) but a significant difference compared to the past on Sc550 and Cst24. So buying B-stocks is a bit like buying full price HB's? I don't know how many HB's they actually sell or what percentage ends up as B-stock but Thomann definitely appear to need to upgrade their QC.
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Post by LeoThunder on Sept 7, 2019 10:23:49 GMT
Time is the answer. If they keep a B-stock for too long, the price drops until it's gone. Why is it that people must always cling to that foolish concept of price reflecting the quality of things. The price of water rises when people are thirsty. it's the same water.
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Post by intenselycalm on Sept 7, 2019 14:27:38 GMT
Water is water, unless it's used water, or a different brand of water, or somehow less/different than what it should be. I wouldn't by B-stock water, not worth that risk. LOL ttmax, perhaps Thomann noticed their B-stock pricing wasn't resulting in sales, so they dropped the price to move product. I've never seen much reason to save ± $10 on a B-stock. Where I live, returns are not an option. If I could get a "B" stock for 25-30%, or more off (as you are showing), I'd have a different level of interest. B-stock guitars can be anything: overstock/clearance, a damaged box with a prefect product inside, items missing from the box (no guitar cable), a broken sting, chip, run, bad fret(s), blemish of some sort (minor to major), or just returned and in perfect order. Distributors may write down new products, or may list new products as B-stock for numerous reasons. Speculation of sales can cause overstock issues, once delivered if sales don't follow, something has to go. Cull the herd, separate and clearance/B-stock. Where I work, we stopped saying "clearance" and never use the term "b-stock", but there are b-stocks and the are put on clearance. Semantics to the liking of management. Marketing just shrugs and uses the term of the day to make it work, and hopefully sales follow. Thomann B-stock I'd guess it may be any, or a mix of different possibilities. Overstock of good product, too many ordered, or MFG shipped wrong qty = (new) B Stock Overstock of returned items = (Used) B Stock General shipment damage, may be little or a lot of damage = (new/used) B Stock Packaging Damage = (new/used) B stock Too many days on shelf (turnover issue), Mfg/Dist writeoff/mark-down = (new/used dated product) B Stock Wrong spec, Mfg hiccup = (new/incorrect spec) B stock A bad batch of New product from the Factory, then discounted for Thomann = (new faulty) B Stock Product change on the near horizon, a need to clear the shelves = (new or used) B Stock Manufacturer wants to dump product = (new) clearance/B stock Could even be human error in pricing, that happens. ... If the price is right for your wallet, enjoy the purchase and rejoice! I may have to look up the Cst24 N, I don't have one of those. I'm now thirsty, but I may be some day.
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Post by LeoThunder on Sept 7, 2019 14:42:50 GMT
Water is water, unless it's used water, or a different brand of water, or somehow less/different than what it should be. I wouldn't by B-stock water, not worth that risk. LOL B-stock guitars can be anything: overstock/clearance, a damaged box with a prefect product inside, items missing from the box (no guitar cable), a broken sting, chip, run, bad fret(s), blemish of some sort (minor to major), or just returned and in perfect order. I have wondered as well why people would buy a B-stock to save 10€. They still do it. This SC-Custom Active is 8€ below full price. This black SC-Custom, on the other hand, is 40€ below, so this is not a general change on B-stock pricing. I have seen it happen. I saw the price of B-stock items go down which I was looking at. I cannot tell, of course, that it was for the same item. Maybe the good one went first, then the bad one came on the line and was remaindered further but if I had to sell those two, I would get the bad one out first. So I believe it was the same and the price went down to get it out. I paid 166€ for my SC-7. It was one of the last. Full price had gone down from 299 to 199€ and there was a B-stock listing at 189€. When it went down to 166, I ordered it. Two weeks later, the SC-7 had disappeared from the Thomann site. Prices were taken down so the wares would go away. My 166€ B-stock was badly set-up but otherwise perfectly fine. All the water you drink is recycled, by the way. It's billions of years old. Not sure what stock that is
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Post by intenselycalm on Sept 7, 2019 15:10:09 GMT
... All the water you drink is recycled, by the way. It's billions of years old. Not sure what stock that is It's all how you look at it.
It's true, our water is recycled, filtered, de-ionized, purified, pumped straight from well, etc., then there is the rain that falls on us, through our hazy sky, and runs off the herbicide coated landscape. I wouldn't want the water left behind by a previous patron when visiting a restaurant. But, water is water as you say.
I'll take a fresh pour from the tap please, even if it is still b-stock.
It may not be any better, but my mind will be in a better place. LOL
Have you every gotten a pint at your favorite tavern with lipstick on the glass. Meh, just drink from the other side.
Who knows, maybe she was cute - or maybe she was a dude.
If B-stock is OK with your mind, enjoy!
Nobody needs to know.
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Post by rtm on Sept 14, 2019 13:27:39 GMT
Just received my B-stock (heaviest discount on a B-stock I've seen so far, €125) MM-85A bass. Here are the problems: - Neck pickup straight up doesn't work. - Sawdust around the screws under the protective plastic film on the metal baseplate for the knobs. (At first I thought it was rust before I removed the plastic, phew) - A coin-sized area of chipped paint on the heel of the body, with another smaller "crater" in the paint where it has been pushed in some, but not fallen off. - Looks like the holes for the pickups in the pickguard were drilled out by a dentist. Edges are super frayed...
So yeah, those are pretty serious issues. Haven't decided what to do yet, I'll have to check out the guts of it first.
"Slight traces of use"
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