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Post by LeoThunder on Jan 15, 2020 6:49:33 GMT
£2000 for a worn out and heavily modified 1962 Strat'. It was refinished, refretted, rewired with extra switches, saddles and the neck pick-up were replaced. If I could not re-sell it, I'd buy that for… nothing, really. People return Harley Benton for lesser scratches on the neck.
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Post by LeoThunder on Jan 25, 2020 6:51:11 GMT
Even if Fender has all the credentials and to cause of its past it can boast of true vintage, honestly I would never buy an instrument in this state. I don't think a reconstruction brings him back to a 1962 strato. I think so because don't like relic mode and can accept only if an instrumet have a unusual sound, of course this Is my little think, world is wonderful because each can think as you wish. I make a difference between "relic'ed" and old. This is old, battered, dirty. It's the guitar found in Grandpa's attic. As such it is a piece of history, and if it were my grandfather's guitar, I would clean it up, make it work and restore it to some extent: maybe replace the nut, level the frets and change the strings. I would fix it and love it as "Grandpa's guitar". Even in red. Now, if it were my neighbour's Hertiecaster or even some old Höfner without serious market value, I wouldn't bother. Were it given to me, I would dump it on ebay, maybe after cleaning it up and fixing the electronics in hope of making some 300€ (for a Höfner). But this is a 1962 Fender and since this guy bought it at an auction, it tells me there was at least one other person bidding something short of what he paid for it. So he's not a fool, he will be able to get his money back and a little work should make him a profit after he's finished playing around with it. It seems there is some serious demand for even a botched and denatured "used to be 1962 Fender". That's the power of the name and myth associated with it. Of course neither Harley Benton nor any brand making copies will ever reach this and it has nothing to do with quality. Not even Höfner gets this, in spite of having been active in the 60s. Not a legend. I just bought a seemingly rare Ibanez SB900, made in Japan (people rave about this) for a little more than a year, in very good condition. I like to think it's worth more than I paid for it, if only because the seller had the auction end on a Monday evening in January (people are broke in January, or not in buying mood) and spent no effort describing it. So I paid 15% of its new price (corrected for inflation), which is the lowest I ever spent on a guitar. Best bargain ever. But I know I won't get thousands out of it, because Ibanez is not and never will be Fender. The crazy demand just isn't there. It's only a good guitar, not the object of fantasies. Or maybe the hairy headbangers from the 80s will grow old and rich to spend their extra cash on relics of their lost youth in 20 years. But I doubt it.
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ttmax
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Post by ttmax on Jan 25, 2020 20:16:01 GMT
I fully agree with you, if I had found my grandfather's guitar I would not sell it even if they offered me all the gold in the world, the feelings cannot be bought, but most likely I would leave it in the state in which I found it, or however, I would just keep it in a good state of conservation but nothing more that could alter its state. conversely, I know that a 62 fender has enormous value and I don't want to discuss whether it is right or not. But I would never buy one where we are on the verge of restoration and here it always seems so if I am not mistaken I did not have time to watch the whole video and understand the dialogue as it is not in my native language. Honestly, I would buy a höfner from the 60s more but in a decent state, the current höfner do not come close to the worst current fender, so in my opinion it should always have a greater value but "vox populi" does not think so. I'm happy for your Ibanez where there is taste you never lose. Today the fender Japan once put in the same way as the current Mexican ones are back in fashion, but instead they have enormous potential, they are fender built Japan with fender pieces and how come they realize it only now, the man is very strange as well as fickle . Years ago I bought a layer set made in japan for a few euros I don't know if today it has increased its value and I don't care to know I don't sell them, but they play very very well, so for me the only important thing is not the label, but the emotion that an instrument gives you. After all, I also bought harley benton and even more than one and only afterwards did I understand that the "no emotion" guitars were not for me.
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