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Post by LeoThunder on Mar 5, 2020 10:13:41 GMT
I don't do covers but sometimes like to understand what might be happening during a particular guitar part so I can try the technique out for myself. Same here. I never watched any of these videos telling how to play a particular piece. I like Guitar Pilgrim because he often boils it down to a set of techniques instead. I know replicating stuff is the way to learn but I lack the motivation…
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DefJef
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Due to musical differences I've decided I can't work with myself any more.
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Post by DefJef on Mar 5, 2020 10:40:18 GMT
We definitely stand on the shoulders of giants Leo. Rarely an island of unique new ideas. In the good old days when it feels as though far more people played instruments and there seemed to be an upright piano in every hallway, it was sort of easier to absorb ideas and tricks. I had a great-uncle who just knew thirteen left hand piano patterns and would use one of them for everything he played. Always boogie woogie. Always after the tea time dishes had been stacked away. It took me ages to just learn each one of them but they've never left me. I absorbed them just because they were there right in front of me and they required no motivation or active input on my part to hunt them down. In fact I'd have been a pretty dull child to have NOT noticed them. Nowadays YouTube is our great-uncle but he doesn't pop around for tea so we have to find the drive to pop and see him. Still he's got so much more knowledge and ability these days. Maybe he's been watching YouTube?!
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Post by simontemplar on Mar 5, 2020 13:59:28 GMT
Ever see PapaStache? That guy's fantastic. Never. I'll give him a chance at showing me something ;-) I have to post some videos. Right now, sadly, corporate firewalls prevent me from sharing guitar goodness. Anyway, so Papastache is a cool guy. I don't even know if he's the best teacher out there, but he seems like a great guy and he's entertaining to watch. I wouldn't be mad to hang out and burn one and play some blues with the dude.
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Post by simontemplar on Mar 5, 2020 14:02:01 GMT
That PapaStache guy has a great feel simontemplar . I don't do covers but sometimes like to understand what might be happening during a particular guitar part so I can try the technique out for myself. PapaStache regularly has great guidance that seems to be on the money. I've definitely picked up some handy tips from him where other players will sometimes lose me or have no actual feel for the piece they are playing. I like PapaStache's attitude. He just seems super cool. I love that beat up salmon color strat he plays too. I need to focus and try to learn from one teacher right now. My issue is that after almost 30 years of on and off playing, I've picked up some bad habits, learned some tunes wrong, and probably spent way more time noodling that practicing. But it's been a lot of fun. PapaStache and Erich Andreas (Yourguitarsage) seem cool, but the one man who has to be mentioned is Marty Schwartz. I love that dude. He'd be a blast to jam with.
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Post by simontemplar on Mar 5, 2020 15:04:45 GMT
That strat with the angled humbucker in the bridge simontemplar ? Yes I love the grubby look of it as well. I fell for a similarly appointed Vintage Geoff Whitehorn model a little while back. Not Marty Schwartz for me though. Not the same feel at all for my personal taste. Oh yeah man, that strat is so cool. This might cause controversy, but it's my guitar, anyway, after I saw that, I relic'ed one. I love that thing. Of course I will legit never relic my HBs. The strat I'm talking about is a partscaster that I built.
I can see how Marty could get old. Early Marty would have been annoying AF, but as he gets older, I like him more. Who else do you like? I really need to get my stuff together and get properly good at playing.
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Post by Djangle on Mar 5, 2020 15:54:54 GMT
Adrian from AnyoneCanPlayGuitar.com and YT is worth a watch. Great all rounder and teaches quite an eclectic mix from blues, soul, rock roll, country. surf, funk, punk /new wave and indie.....definitely not a hair metal shredder channel tho
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Mar 5, 2020 16:24:20 GMT
Id go with Djangle anyone can play is very good, also guitar force does some good stuff.
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Post by r3v3nt0n on Mar 6, 2020 10:37:01 GMT
The question is: How much money am I going to invest in a budget guitar? None, because it's not an investment. It's only a spending. You're not getting any of it back unless you turn it into a work of art. Dali could have screwed a mustache on a Harley Benton and sold it for thousands. Normal people can't do that. Now, how much you spend on something you want is completely up to the spender. Those who compare the price of their updates to the original price of the instrument don't understand that simple thing. The man who spent effort into cutting the tree down wasn't stopped by the thought that it had grown there for free. The only truly valid question is whether there is a cheaper way of getting what you want. In most cases, to the tinkerer who likes to build his own thing with the parts he's chosen, there is often no better way. That Gibson or that Epiphone wouldn't have had the parts he wanted on it, so even if he had got the finish he liked, he would still have spent more money. It is definitely not an investment. You can never sell it for the original price. Everything you put on extra will not raise the price of a cheap instrument even a bit. These guitars are made fast, with cheap hardware and electronics and with only minimal, basic setup. They are then shipped in larger numbers to the company who placed the order, to be sold online. The SC 450 Plus is a suprisingly well made guitar, it has decent sounding pickups, working electronics and tuning keys and is usually set up quite well. Mine was a pretty good straight out of the box and upon doing a proper setup I realized it didn't have any real flaws (the only thing and I realized it later, was somewhat shallow neck to body angle). I could buy an Epi, with better pickups and hardware for 3 times the price, but the risk of getting a poorly setup and flawed instrument is about the same. Being a lefthanded player and my options are limited. So I decided to modify mine partly for the sake of learning and partly to experiment with parts and pickups, ... and utimatly customize it to my likings. It now has Gotoh hardware and tuners, Graphtech nut, Alpha electronics pots with orange drops and currently Seymour Duncan Alnico Pro 2 pickups. And I cannot sell it even with that specs.
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Post by simontemplar on Mar 6, 2020 13:42:52 GMT
I honestly don't spend a lot of time on YouTube guitar channels simontemplar , although I do enjoy That Pedal Show when I want to know a bit more about certain pedals and have enough time to indulge myself. I'd forgotten about PapaStache till you mentioned him and suddenly remembered watching him playing Young Lust. So many little touches in that video worked their way into my playing. That's why it's really useful to watch guys like him. Somehow they've figured out what was actually happening on the real recording. Others seem to be making way off the mark guesses. I did watch and enjoy this guy recently, Carl Brown. Comparing his explanations with real footage of the band seemed to be accurate. Sadly he doesn't really explain how the thought process behind this structure is working. I think it may be using Lydian mode. Pretty difficult to follow where on earth he is in the solo sometimes though because the solo itself is all over the place! But that's why I was watching. I love rather anarchic solos. Does he have any lessons that interest you if you like his style? He's no PapaStache though. Sometimes I think I spend too much time on YouTube! I like Carl a lot. When I was first trying to decide on a direction, I watched a few of his videos. And they are really good. A few other guys I like are Paul Davids and David Walimann. There's a few blues guys too that are cool.
Something about just slaying a crazy blues line and looking at the camera like HA HA Welcome Welcome! That's just a cool guy with great skills.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 14:07:32 GMT
Some of my favourite solos have a sort of backwards feel to them, as though they end up where they should have started. It's a style that I love and know there must be a key to unlocking but I haven't found it yet. I'm sure it will probably lie in the mode that is being used and the choice of an unexpected string pre- bent or bending up to the note I would have expected. Lots of chromatic stuff too. I've only ever pulled of such a thing once and I really had to work at it. Love to be able to tap into whatever it is that's going on.
Interesting.
That "backwards" solo thing you're describing reminds me a lot of what Richard Pinhas did on his first records: HELDON - Back to Heldon
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