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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 16, 2018 4:06:33 GMT
First, decide if you're going to need a 5-string or a 4-string. If you play a 4-string some songs will force you to either tune down (right decision) or transpose (wrong decision) what you play. I tuned my bass down to B. It didn't work Well, it did but went all floppy buzzy. Not playable. I suppose tuning down a tone to D is almost fine. Going further down would require raising the action. Still, that B is the sound of the abyss (30.9Hz). I sort of like it. I saw a 10-string guitar (yes!) go a minor third below that (G #0, 26Hz) and that's where I can't make out the notes any more. I don't hear below 30Hz anyway, I guess all I heard were the overtones.
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Post by JAC on Aug 16, 2018 6:39:24 GMT
I tuned my bass down to B. It didn't work Well, it did but went all floppy buzzy. Not playable. I suppose tuning down a tone to D is almost fine. Going further down would require raising the action. Did you swap strings to tune down? You need a larger gauge string for a low B (or even lower).
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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 16, 2018 7:06:48 GMT
I tuned my bass down to B. It didn't work Well, it did but went all floppy buzzy. Not playable. I suppose tuning down a tone to D is almost fine. Going further down would require raising the action. Did you swap strings to tune down? You need a larger gauge string for a low B (or even lower). No, of course not. I wanted to see how far down tuning can go without having to fiddle around and it's not that much.
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Post by JAC on Aug 16, 2018 8:58:32 GMT
Anything below a D is an issue with a string around 100. In fact, personally, I even find D too flappy.
For a B I usually go with a 125 or a 130.
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Post by salteedog on Aug 16, 2018 9:01:13 GMT
I wonder is it kind of a modern phenomenon ...this desire to go so low? Vinyl records (especially LPs) effectively limited the amount of bass you could record due to limitations of the medium.
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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 16, 2018 9:50:19 GMT
I went ahead and tuned down to G#0, like that 10-string monstrosity. It is complete nonsense. I can barely make out what I'm playing and that's without anything around it. Yes, it's all flapping against the neck too, but that's an aside. I actually wonder if I could play by ear even down to B.
Low notes have always made an impression. Someone built an "octobass" in the 19th century which was used in some of Berlioz' music, I think.
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Post by salteedog on Aug 16, 2018 11:08:52 GMT
It an interesting instrument alright but it never really caught on I guess.
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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 16, 2018 11:11:49 GMT
It an interesting instrument alright but it never really caught on I guess. What do you mean? They made three of them
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Post by JAC on Aug 16, 2018 12:31:05 GMT
I went ahead and tuned down to G #0, like that 10-string monstrosity. It is complete nonsense. I can barely make out what I'm playing and that's without anything around it. Yes, it's all flapping against the neck too, but that's an aside. I actually wonder if I could play by ear even down to B. A G#0 is just slightly under 26Hz, and while a (healthy) human can supposedly hear from 20Hz to 20kHz,you need a pretty decent subwoofer (or very very good headphones) to be able to produce that frequency. When playing bass, the majority of what you hear is overtones anyway, the fundamental of very low notes is lost through the majority of bass amps/cabs. Also, the lower you go, the more power is needed to produce those frequencies. I do have a few tracks that use a E0, played on keys, but to be able to appreciate them I need to pump them through a few thousand watts of good subwoofers. it is definitely more about the air hitting you than the sound.
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Post by salteedog on Aug 16, 2018 13:34:03 GMT
It an interesting instrument alright but it never really caught on I guess. What do you mean? They made three of them As in, that instrument was never accepted as part of a standard concert orchestra.
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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 16, 2018 14:09:59 GMT
What do you mean? They made three of them As in, that instrument was never accepted as part of a standard concert orchestra. I wonder why Such a nice, deep tone… Organs have pipes that can do this too. But all is not lost. Further attempts shall be made.
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Due to musical differences I've decided I can't work with myself any more.
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Post by DefJef on Aug 18, 2018 12:49:15 GMT
I've got a plan. I have a wedding to attend in September. I hardly ever need to wear a suit so the couple in my wardrobe are virtually unused. One is my own wedding suit from waaaaay back. That's never going to fit me, heck, it nearly fits my 16 year old but the other one was worn around 2012 and looks pristine. But I can't get into it. Not even squeeze my beer-friendly belly into the waistband of those trousers if I stop breathing. So I'll need to buy a new suit...or...begin dieting now so I will fit it and spend the money saved from not buying a new suit on one of these J&D mini basses. I'm going for it. Wish me luck. Now that's commitment to music folks. Take that to your last flaky band member!
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Post by JAC on Aug 18, 2018 13:24:02 GMT
I see a new suit in your future... (And a new bass to make you feel better about failing on your diet)
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Post by DerAlex on Aug 21, 2018 15:06:06 GMT
The fool is not shipping it so it will go for nothing serious, it's roughly in your area (Düsseldorf), it's new (2017), it's beautiful and it's the best kind of bass you can get at that kind of price. Slim, light, ergonomic, active with 3-band EQ. You'll even get a good gigbag with it. I got one of these for 200€ a few months ago, I'm never selling it. Only potential drawback: it's a standard long scale (34'). Thanks Leo for the tipp - I think I got a bargain on that one (if everything will go smoothly). So no shortscale but a regular bass. Looking forward to it.
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