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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Jan 28, 2019 23:29:03 GMT
There are not so many regular contributors now. It would would be a shame if the forum descended into a pit of radio silence. Here's to LeoThunder and blindwilly3fingers  Would not be the same without them. I agree. The forum is a bit slow of contributing members. I think both you guys have so much to offer. This place would die without you guys. BTW, my CST-24 arrived. It's fantastic !!! Enjoy your new guitar 😁 Once you have had a good play don't forget to give us your opinions good or bad (hopefully good). |
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Post by LeoThunder on Feb 3, 2019 7:47:56 GMT
I stated the offer of Harley Benton as larger which is a fact, no matter how much you want coil split. I have no business justifying myself to you and won't accept your telling me how to express my opinions. I understand you don't like me and point you to the ignore function. This is all you'll have. The point I am trying to make is your OP was a list of specs of 3 guitars and your brief opinion that the HB's were the better option but you then make a statement that the Squier not having coil split is a flaw. You comparison is is based on the specs and basically slaughters the Squier. This I find has no validity and is not a fair comparison. People could read that as the Squier is ****, sound and feel of the instrument were not worthy of mention according to you when I suggested it. I wrote the Harley Benton were "the more interesting proposition" and there is no doubt the specs offer more at a lesser price. I don't see the need for a comparison to be "fair". This makes absolutely no sense. A comparison needs to be accurate. It also benefits from being drawn between products in a similar price range and going for a similar target, which is the case here. As to "people" who could "read" nonsense I do not write, that's their problem. |
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Post by LeoThunder on Feb 3, 2019 7:57:41 GMT
The ST-62 has a rather thick neck (23 mm at 1st fret, 24.5 mm at 12th) and the so-called full body size too. They can compete with used Affinity on German ebay but importing them from far away is likely a very different matter. eBay.de sounds expensive to me. Last week on leboncoin.fr I saw a HB ST-62 and a HB little practice amplifier for forty euros, the lot. Looked okay in the photos. Gone now but look at this Harley Benton Dynamic-HSH FMT Charcoal below. Asking 120 euros. France is close to Germany so if you can sweet talk a seller into shipping. What do you think about that, LeoThunder ?
An asking price below 50% for a new model is surprising. I suppose the brand has no reputation in France yet. There is an ebay equivalent to this site in Germany ( ebay Kleinanzeigen) and prices are usually higher. |
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Post by LeoThunder on Feb 3, 2019 8:04:04 GMT
Probably a bit early to figure out what the resale value of the Fusions would be. Also, perhaps a tad early to determine quality level too. In fact that's a metric I'd really like to see - some objective measure of average fretwork quality across each model. Nut cut too while we're at it. Indeed. With so much talk about returns and potential quality issues, ordering looks like a gamble. Fretwork is a serious matter with stainless steel. I know I can file regular frets down on a cheap one, but I probably wouldn't be able to fix them there. Reviewers have been positive on this side so far. |
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Post by LeoThunder on Feb 3, 2019 8:14:20 GMT
I've never really noticed a problem with this so thought I'd have a little practical examination of it. My issue with this is not related to playing but to handling the guitar. The neck heel is the natural spot to grab and hold it when just picking it up and a thick square thing is unpleasant. Thinner, rounded or even just slanted heels as on my Schecter are much better. I understand it must have been a time and cost saving solution in the early days. Now it just looks like misplaced nostalgia or conscious differentiation, the same way cheap roller string trees (1€ a pair on ebay) are reserved to Fender but not even present on expensive Squier. The absence of coil split makes me feel the same way. A push-pull tone knob only costs a few cents and wires more. |
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Feb 3, 2019 12:19:58 GMT
The point I am trying to make is your OP was a list of specs of 3 guitars and your brief opinion that the HB's were the better option but you then make a statement that the Squier not having coil split is a flaw. You comparison is is based on the specs and basically slaughters the Squier. This I find has no validity and is not a fair comparison. People could read that as the Squier is ****, sound and feel of the instrument were not worthy of mention according to you when I suggested it. I wrote the Harley Benton were "the more interesting proposition" and there is no doubt the specs offer more at a lesser price. I don't see the need for a comparison to be "fair". This makes absolutely no sense. A comparison needs to be accurate. It also benefits from being drawn between products in a similar price range and going for a similar target, which is the case here. As to "people" who could "read" nonsense I do not write, that's their problem. Welcome back LeoThunder 😁 I see no mention of the "validity" part of the "fair sentence" you are quoting me on? So perhaps it is your quote that is as you put it "nonsense". I am not going to continue this petty bickering any further. YOU WIN. 👍 Carry on with your Cory Mura impression comparisons, with guitars you like against guitars you don't like. I appolise if this post is not to your liking as you are most probably the most knowledgeable guitar expert on here. I have nothing against you personally, I don't even know you. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 13:34:48 GMT
I've never really noticed a problem with this so thought I'd have a little practical examination of it. My issue with this is not related to playing but to handling the guitar. The neck heel is the natural spot to grab and hold it when just picking it up and a thick square thing is unpleasant. Thinner, rounded or even just slanted heels as on my Schecter are much better. I understand it must have been a time and cost saving solution in the early days. Now it just looks like misplaced nostalgia or conscious differentiation, the same way cheap roller string trees (1€ a pair on ebay) are reserved to Fender but not even present on expensive Squier. The absence of coil split makes me feel the same way. A push-pull tone knob only costs a few cents and wires more. Oh I see, well no wonder I've never noticed a problem with that heel. I've never picked a guitar up there, I always grab mine like a shovel or a tennis racquet (probably comes from the time when my only guitar was a tennis racquet strumming the opening chords to OMD's The New Stone Age  ). As regards other twists and additions, they all add up. Not on one instrument but across the full potential sales figure. I have no idea how many pieces of each design Squier expect to sell globally. In fact, now I think of it, I have no way of working it out or imagining it. Would 5000 be ridiculously high or ridiculously low? Anyway, suppose it IS 5000 and, by not offering the bells and whistles, they save themselves $3. That's an extra $15000 dollars of margin on top. Accountants call the shots (well, the shareholders do really). Plus, maybe they've noticed how, no matter what they sell, it will never be good enough. It can't have passed them by that many folk are planning to rip their guitar apart before they've even got it because they definitely know they can improved it immeasurably.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 14:00:13 GMT
I've never seen this before but, since I've just referenced it, I thought I'd go off and track down a performance of it. I did wonder whether, all those years ago, I had been trying to strum my tennis racquet to a synth line (I've been caught like that before trying to play lead lines from Talk Talk's 'I Don't Believe in You' and Goldfrapp's 'Lovely Head' for years until it turned out they were synth noises!  ), but no, Andy McCluskey is indeed doing an epileptic strum on this one. |
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Post by salteedog on Feb 3, 2019 15:59:37 GMT
Mu favourite fast strummed guitar part is this one (ironically played by Craig Gannon in this live performance while Johnny Marr plays the melody).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 16:10:14 GMT
Actually I was just strumming that opening to New Stone Age on my thinline whilst waiting for the kettle to boil. It turned out not to be as fast or difficult as it seemed when I could only play the tennis racquet. Just goes to work as another reminder as to how far we've come. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 17:44:46 GMT
Ah, love that Thinline of yours, with P90's  if you ever get tired of it you know where to ship it!  |
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), but no, Andy McCluskey is indeed doing an epileptic strum on this one.