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Post by salteedog on Jan 30, 2019 1:46:51 GMT
The seller has a few other interesting specimens too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 6:45:23 GMT
When you say 2nd hand Im thinking 50 Euros! What is that LINK mate? Doesnt look like a 2nd hand site to me
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Jan 30, 2019 7:43:13 GMT
A bit cheap 😜
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Post by salteedog on Jan 30, 2019 8:49:15 GMT
When you say 2nd hand Im thinking 50 Euros! What is that LINK mate? Doesnt look like a 2nd hand site to me I guess he tried DoneDeal and EBay but didn't get any takers there!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 9:33:53 GMT
Ulp! This either means he's actually retiring, which wouldn't surprise me really, or else he's tired of the fuss around his guitars and knows that he can play anything, so why not raise a load of money for charity. I know he sold his London home to donate to a homeless charity.
Gilmour is frequently seen to be very detached, pragmatic and unemotional about such things. Maybe it comes from being abandoned to the public school system from primary age?
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Post by MartinB on Jan 30, 2019 9:43:54 GMT
"One careful owner"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 9:47:15 GMT
In Rolling Stone he said this, and he's right of course, "Retiring is not a hard and fast thing for me in my life. I don’t really have to retire. I don’t have to say those words. I don’t have to state that have retired or anything like that. If I retire, it will be a quiet, unnoticeable process at some point. But I’m not at that moment." I'll guarantee those guitars will go for way more than their estimate. The 0001 serial number strat? His Another Brick goldtop? Maybe he's decided to go all midi?!
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Post by salteedog on Jan 30, 2019 9:49:15 GMT
"A quiet unnoticeable process".....for a man with his 'day job' and wealth that's easy to say!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 9:52:53 GMT
Yep, and that's why he's saying it. He just seems hugely practical.
Since he stood by how well the signature black strats replicated his own, and he was given two of them by Fender, it will be as though it never went away.
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Post by salteedog on Jan 30, 2019 10:11:40 GMT
Well fair plays to him if its for charity. I also admire Eric C for doing the same in the past. These guys know there is no magic dust inside a guitar and they probably gravitated toward strats because it gave them a platform to build an instrument that suited the way they wanted to play and was robust and practical.
Fender should have given them shares in the company given the amount of strat sales they drove.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 10:20:10 GMT
He's definitely buried Pink Floyd now anyway. It probably really helps his head to move on to a load of new instruments with which he can write and play new stuff. He was always keen to experiment with equipment and sounds and probably feels as though he has been preserved in aspic for the past 25 years. If he's carrying on he can easily afford to release and tour whatever material he wants to and can justify playing no more Floyd tracks on any night.
It must feel stultifying to know you have to pull out the same old songs for years and years and years. I really don't know how acts like Fleetwood Mac manage to do it. I guess they are extraordinarily well paid for it and it's just a job of work but can they ever really feel a huge thrill at an audience response to Go Your Own Way ever again? Tick, kerching.
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Post by salteedog on Jan 30, 2019 10:30:22 GMT
I imagine it must be an enormous mental burden to be constantly expected to live in the past...to be the person you used to be 40 years ago. I mean we would all like to be in our 20s again but we would prefer if we could retain the wisdom and learning that the intervening years have brought. And either the ego has become so big that you believe all the hype or you know that with hard work (or with Daddy's money) and more than one lucky break you got to 'make it'. Many other better more talented musicians didn't. Part of 'fame' is constantly expecting to live a lie. That's a heavy burden to carry.
I reckon Dylan has it right. He plays what he wants and how he wants - constantly re-inventing his old songs. It doesn't suit his fans who want to hear the recorded versions but tough.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 10:47:36 GMT
I never understood wanting to hear the recorded versions live. If you've got the recorded versions why would you want to hear them again? Sometimes I have been hugely impressed by a band being able to pull off playing an arrangement that was clearly created in a studio and actually doing it better live using whatever talents they have at hand, but mostly it's a really boring experience for me to hear everything as I've heard it before.
I'm the same with my own songs. Just because it began life with a shaker and a bass drum doesn't mean it always has to be done that way. I'm often searching for other ways to make rhythm tracks that can be used on stage, whether it's a looper, a keyboard sound or a delay, vibrato, or tremolo effect. If can set up a pulse it's in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 11:06:02 GMT
Listen to what happens when your dad's David Gilmour. They're clearly a close loving family but can it be healthy or wise to be this close?
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Post by salteedog on Jan 30, 2019 11:08:48 GMT
Dylan knows that the only version of a song that's real is the one that being playing right now by these musicians on this stage.
I guess it's the difference between the stuffed stag's head on the wall or the real animal rutting in all it's glory or fury or fear or whatever.
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