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Post by ajay on Mar 9, 2019 8:17:39 GMT
Hi all, I have the Harley Benton RB-612BP Classic Series. Looking for the Best HB pedal to get that Byrds jangle sound? Any ideas Thanks
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Post by Djangle on Mar 9, 2019 12:52:04 GMT
Hi ajay welcome to the club......to get close to the byrds/Mcguinn sound requires the very pricey Janglebox compresser that costs around the same as the guitar you have aquired however a decent cheap compresser when set up right can give your electric 12 some extra chime that gets it in the byrds ballpark. The compresser I use with my 12 string has 3 control knobs sustain, attack and level. I set the sustain/gain knob so that the signal doesn't distort (around 11 o'clock on my guitar)and the attack knob is maxed out to 10. The level knob is basically a volume knob and I set it around 12. Using these settings gives my 12 string some extra chime and sparkle that sounds better than using no compression. There are 3 or 4 cheap compression pedals on Thomann priced around £25 and the one that seems to get the best reviews is the TC Electronic Forcefield the others are the HB dynacomp, Nux and even cheaper Behringers. TC pedals get great reviews on most sites so I'd be inclined to go with that one. Adding a touch of reverb helps with the sound you're after too so.... Good luck
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Post by ajay on Mar 9, 2019 14:00:56 GMT
Thanks for the info, very useful. You would have thought that Thomann would offer a pedal as they sell so many 12 strings!! Let's hope there's one in the pipeline. Thanks again Ajay
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 18:56:08 GMT
I'm in love with my CKK Gears Compressor (based on Ross). It certainly has a very good snap to it. Not sure about the Byrds sound though but this Compressor is awesome.
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Post by Vincent on Mar 9, 2019 19:04:53 GMT
Did the guitar player in the group use a pedal?
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Mar 9, 2019 19:36:50 GMT
Did the guitar player in the group use a pedal? He had two on his bike 😍
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Post by Vincent on Mar 9, 2019 19:49:52 GMT
blindwilly3fingers If he had two sets of strings on his guitar then maybe he rode his bicycle in tandem also?
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Mar 9, 2019 19:52:35 GMT
blindwilly3fingers If he had two sets of strings on his guitar then maybe he rode his bicycle in tandem also? I'm reliably informed it was a three wheeler 🚳
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Post by salteedog on Mar 9, 2019 22:47:55 GMT
Not sure how the HB is strung but McGuinn's Rickis were strung with the high string last ...
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Post by salteedog on Mar 9, 2019 22:50:25 GMT
Thanks for the info, very useful. You would have thought that Thomann would offer a pedal as they sell so many 12 strings!! Let's hope there's one in the pipeline. Thanks again Ajay
Not sure what you mean by this Ajay. Thomann sell at least two Harley Benton branded compressor pedals.
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Post by Djangle on Mar 9, 2019 23:35:03 GMT
Did the guitar player in the group use a pedal? On the original recordings like Mr Tambourine Man etc.. the Ric was plugged straight to the board through two in line tube compressers or something like that I'm no expert on this just what I've read online. For live work Rickenbacker designed a built in compresser on the Signature Mcguinn Model which was based on the said studio compression. AFAIK nowadays he prefers the Janglebox over the built in Ric comp and uses it almost exclusively.
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Post by Djangle on Mar 9, 2019 23:54:32 GMT
Also it's worth pointing out the Janglebox was specifically manufactured to emulate the Byrds/Petty jangle tone and that's what sets it apart from other compressors although it's apparently pretty much an MXR dynacomp clone with different/specific capacitors added. There's a schematic online of the two models together and they're nearly identical so if anyone fancies building me one for £50 take my money
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Post by Djangle on Mar 10, 2019 0:31:21 GMT
Here's a sample with the Janglebox through a deluxe reverb with a 12 string Gretsch Electromatic with the high octave strings on top...
And same player on on a Rickenbacker where the low octave strings come first...
Both sound pretty sweet......Oh S**t I'm gassing for a Janglebox now.
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Post by Vincent on Mar 10, 2019 23:18:52 GMT
Did the guitar player in the group use a pedal? On the original recordings like Mr Tambourine Man etc.. the Ric was plugged straight to the board through two in line tube compressers or something like that I'm no expert on this just what I've read online. For live work Rickenbacker designed a built in compresser on the Signature Mcguinn Model which was based on the said studio compression. AFAIK nowadays he prefers the Janglebox over the built in Ric comp and uses it almost exclusively. That is interesting. There is always compression happening in studios but I did not know about the compressor built into his guitar and the jangle box.
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