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Post by salteedog on Apr 25, 2019 13:24:56 GMT
My immediate instinct is that it needs higher gauge strings - it comes stock with 9's and is a bit too slinky for my liking.
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Post by LeoThunder on Apr 25, 2019 13:37:16 GMT
These bridges were designed at a time when heavier gauges were the norm.
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Post by LeoThunder on Apr 25, 2019 15:52:45 GMT
I wonder if the lighter gauge strings are to compensate for the longer string length? Longer string equaling lower pitch. No, the scale length defines that relation. Longer strings behind the bridge have no impact on string tension within the scale. All Squier appear to come with 9-42, apart from the Jim Root Telecaster and the 24" scale Mustang (10-46).
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Post by salteedog on Apr 25, 2019 16:14:20 GMT
Oh no! Not the string length conundrum again
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DefJef
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Due to musical differences I've decided I can't work with myself any more.
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Post by DefJef on Apr 25, 2019 17:02:35 GMT
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Post by salteedog on Apr 25, 2019 22:03:08 GMT
I've read that guy's blog before. He's pretty opinionated but he has a clear and direct style.
Regarding the Mustang bridge - I'm actually not that bothered by the lack of individual height adjustment. On my new guitar it appears to be an okay match for the fretboard. (The bridge radius is smaller than the fretboard radius) And in any case it's no worse than the absence of individual saddle adjustment on TOM bridges.
One advantage it does have is that the elimination of those height adjustment screws eliminated two (actually three*) causes of string buzz for each string - i.e. 18 points of failure
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1 - rattle in left screw 2 - rattle in right screw 3. - rattle due to height mismatch between screws.
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Post by LeoThunder on Apr 26, 2019 0:00:17 GMT
No matter how many screws there are and how much I tighten them, bloody strings always rattle the most
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Post by salteedog on Apr 26, 2019 9:45:25 GMT
A quick survey of internet forums and facebook groups dedicated to Jazzmasters and Jaguars indicates their owners are very pre-occupied with various schemes to eliminate bridge buzzes and rattles. It's a fact of life for these type of bridges. Tele users have a much simpler journey in comparison - vintage or modern saddles, brass or steel
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Post by salteedog on Apr 26, 2019 11:06:24 GMT
I can. Actually the design of the bridge and trem really contributes to the way the thing resonates and passes harmonics across strings so I'll be carefull not to kill that character.
The upshot is that almost nobody gets these guitar out of the box without having to do some type of bridge set-up. It seems experienced Jag and JM owners know what to expect and have a plan in place for it.
My main initial concern was whether there is any fault in it or not (so I can decide whether it needs to be returned). At this stage I believe not. So I'll take it apart, put some higher gauge strings on it (maybe flatwounds), perhaps shim the neck to increase the break angle and I hope all will be good then.
There is quite a distinctive tone from it. Its no problem getting that harsh and brittle jangly tone that so many look for in this type of instrument (e.g Mascis 'Freakscene') But for fun I tried to see how it would sound for riffs better associated with a Les Paul and Marshall set-up (namely 'Ziggy Stardust' and 'Search and Destroy') and they proved an impossibility whereas a P90 can get in the ballpark.
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Post by hartonbenley on Apr 26, 2019 18:14:25 GMT
I read your review Salteedog : so the Squier JM CV 60 LH is no exception and suffers the same bridge issues that exists on Jaguars and Jazzmaster Fender. It's what deterred me to acquire this guitar...
That said, I'm curious to learn how you will manage that problem of buzzy bridge and shallow string break angle (that is absent from the JA60 and MS60 though).
Cheers,
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Post by salteedog on Apr 26, 2019 18:40:20 GMT
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