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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 0:10:34 GMT
Im not happy with the light color of the jatoba fretboard of my CST-24T black cherry, i would prefer dark fretboard. Better get used to it. With few exceptions everyone is changing fingerboard material due to CITES. e.g. Cort are using Ovangkol, Jatoba, Merbau and others. Gibson Pau Ferro, Fender Indian Laurel, Ibanez 'fried' NZ Pine even in models at price points where I'd expect much better. With the exceptions of the coloured 'thermally treated' and techno 'woods', nearly all of those are a lighter shade and or different grain to traditional Rosewood. Yamaha is still currently sticking with Rosewood causing all kinds of mayhem in delivery IME, but for how long? Harley Benton is currently all over the place at present, even within a specific model as new suppliers and batches evolve. e.g. Blackwood, 'Roseacer', Jatoba. Rosewood is finished except in higher end, and for mail order you can forget it unless within country so there is no border CITES administrative entry approval proof of certification or reprocessing required. I get the aesthetic thing, but what do you want your guitar for? To play it or pose with it? My (Vietnamese production) SC Custom delivered about a year ago came with a 'fried' maple fingerboard. Even though it looks good and plays well and I am very happy with it, I'd have preferred Jatoba as they come supplied (from China again) now. Prior to all the CITES kerfuffle, they used to come with a traditional Rosewood fingerboard, which I'd have liked even more. But, those days are gone. If I had to choose between 'fried', 'ersatz' or Jatoba, I'd take a natural wood in Jatoba every time. Have a look at the latest Epiphone SG G400 Pro on Thomann and then go to Epiphone's site and check the images of the same model there. Both specify a Pau Ferro fingerboard. Methinks a bit of creative Photoshop-ing going on at Epiphone's site -or old images. I know which image of the current production model I believe is probably the more truthfully representative.
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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 5, 2019 6:08:45 GMT
Im not happy with the light color of the jatoba fretboard of my CST-24T black cherry, i would prefer dark fretboard. Cort are using Ovangkol, Jatoba, Merbau and others. Gibson Pau Ferro, Fender Indian Laurel, Ibanez 'fried' NZ Pine even in models at price points where I'd expect much better. With the exceptions of the coloured 'thermally treated' and techno 'woods', nearly all of those are a lighter shade and or different grain to traditional Rosewood. Yamaha is still currently sticking with Rosewood causing all kinds of mayhem in delivery IME, but for how long? Harley Benton is currently all over the place at present, even within a specific model as new suppliers and batches evolve. e.g. Blackwood, 'Roseacer', Jatoba. … If I had to choose between 'fried', 'ersatz' or Jatoba, I'd take a natural wood in Jatoba every time. It depends on the rest of the guitar. I like the look of Jatoba but some colour pairings are just unfitting and that brown will only work within limits. The same goes for roasted maple which I find ugly in most cases, lucky only on exceptions. I want my guitars to be visually pleasing. I want them on a stand in my living room (not all of them but they rotate) and looks are a major deciding factor. I am quite happy with the Roseacer on my SC-7, black and classy. The Blackwood of my SC-450 Plus looks like charcoal up close but just black from any normal distance and in spite of worries expressed by owners of earlier models which had issues, it hasn't moved a bit in almost a year now.
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Post by hallon on Aug 5, 2019 7:52:31 GMT
I got me a CST24 as well, and it is also light brown fretboard, I think it must be the Jatoba, it looks better with the darker one, but for me it is not a reason to send it back. It does work.
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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 5, 2019 9:09:05 GMT
I got me a CST24 as well, and it is also light brown fretboard, I think it must be the Jatoba, it looks better with the darker one The CST-24HB Charcoal has new pictures that show the combination and I think it works better together with a dark body.
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Post by hallon on Aug 5, 2019 13:11:19 GMT
I got me a CST24 as well, and it is also light brown fretboard, I think it must be the Jatoba, it looks better with the darker one The CST-24HB Charcoal has new pictures that show the combination and I think it works better together with a dark body. Yeah I see, however I got the Tortoise model, and it's pics are not updated yet.
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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 5, 2019 13:33:47 GMT
The CST-24HB Charcoal has new pictures that show the combination and I think it works better together with a dark body. Yeah I see, however I got the Tortoise model, and it's pics are not updated yet. Well, you know what everyone else is waiting for, don't you? I'm getting a Dodgy Deko Tobacco Flamy Treelify one this week. This guy: At least I already know what it looks like. I hope the neck will be usable, If not I'll sell it. Got it for half the price anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 14:40:10 GMT
"Roseacer" is roasted maple. Thermally treated to be techically accurate, aka 'roasted', 'fried' in deprecating slang terms.
"Classy" isn't an adjective I'd ascribe to it.
Roseacer on my SC Custom is stable and dark, almost black. Indifferent would best describe my view of it. I'd have preferred Ebony or Merbau in the absence of Rosewood availability, but they weren't options.
As a fingerboard material it has acceptable feel. Longevity? Time will tell. In the interim, it works for me. I buy to play, not display.
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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 5, 2019 15:21:59 GMT
"Roseacer" is roasted maple. Thermally treated to be techically accurate, aka 'roasted', 'fried' in deprecating slang terms. "Classy" isn't an adjective I'd ascribe to it. To some, anything that is not left in its natural state, like apes or the unwashed, is worth deprecation. To me, a treated, processed and refined thing is classier than a piece of wood left as it grew on its own. I do not share in the myths of the untouched or the self despite for what is made. I do not value the origins more than the evolved.
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Post by hallon on Aug 7, 2019 19:03:35 GMT
Yeah I see, however I got the Tortoise model, and it's pics are not updated yet. Well, you know what everyone else is waiting for, don't you? I'm getting a Dodgy Deko Tobacco Flamy Treelify one this week. This guy: At least I already know what it looks like. I hope the neck will be usable, If not I'll sell it. Got it for half the price anyway. Congratz man! Let us know how it is. Also, my CST24 didn't come with the morning stars, and I am actually happy with that, as I prefer it without the stars.
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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 8, 2019 1:10:40 GMT
Let us know how it is. Also, my CST24 didn't come with the morning stars, and I am actually happy with that, as I prefer it without the stars. Coming sometime today but I already have better pictures than my old phone can make I couldn't see the usual D stamp anywhere on the back so I'm not certain it's a "deko" item but it's definitely some sidelined thing. I have been looking at the Tortoise variant for a long time too but kept coming back to the brighter, sunny flame. Never was a big fan of these star inlays either although I tend to think it's still better than the so usual round dots. I'll have to deal with twigs and leaves instead…
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bamapaul
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Post by bamapaul on Aug 13, 2019 20:59:42 GMT
I have used Howard Feed-N-Wax on light fretboards with good results. Perhaps it is the beeswax that keeps the board looking dark.
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Post by ben on Aug 19, 2019 9:59:38 GMT
The first SC450 plus LD i ordered had a nice black (blackwood) fretboard. Looked great, but unfortunately it came with a broken switch and they said to send it back. I ordered it around end of may i think. Big mistake to send it back...
Got the replacement and it was horrible. The back was just hideous and the fretboard was Pau Ferro (i think). Had to many problems, so i sent it back...
Anyone know if they will stick with the brownish pau ferro or will they go back to the black fretboard? Also, i would like to order it again, but kind of worried about ordering it now during the summer.. Saw some posts that the summer batch is usually not the best. Not sure if that's true...
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Post by danny on Aug 21, 2019 3:26:52 GMT
hi, mines was the same, used iron acetate.
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Post by r3v3nt0n on Aug 21, 2019 11:13:46 GMT
I've tried all kinds of oils and the one that darkens the wood for the longest time is Fret Doctor Fingerboard Oil. If applied correctly, it can last for a couple of months. Depends on how much you play, of course.
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