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Post by LeoThunder on Dec 9, 2019 13:39:08 GMT
New JB-75FL SB in 5 to 6 weeks. Too late for Christmas Unlined pau ferro fingerboard, ash body, pictures show brass saddles, the rest is as usual: I'm not getting one because it has a pickguard and too few strings…
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Post by LeoThunder on Dec 10, 2019 11:54:20 GMT
There are already two sunburst variants of the JB-40FL. Now this one just brings an unlined fingerboard and a black pickguard. A puzzling choice. Maybe there are more variants to come?
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Post by DerAlex on Apr 20, 2020 6:10:06 GMT
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Post by kodiakblair on Apr 21, 2020 5:01:45 GMT
What part interests you, the "lined" or pau ferro ? If it's the lines you'll find them pretty much useless,that's unless you develop a playing position that allows to lean over and gaze at the fingerboard. If you do that allow for loads of neck pain,sleepless nights and probably medical treatment for the change in posture. If it's the material,well the jury is out. Folks make bold statements about fingerboard material, worse than for fretted instruments. So called benefits of maple vs rosewood go right out the window when you remember Jaco slathered marine varnish over his JB. The modern take is use CA glue. The main thing is the fingerboard is even and hard. Personally I've never did either the CA or marine varnish,didn't see the point. Couple of my fretless have Persimmon boards,it's harder than a whore's heart so no need there. The ancient Vigier has Deltametal and the even older Tune some synthetic material. It's rosewood on the Peavey and it's pretty poor,my mate's JB-40 has a better finished board. My opinion is buy a fretless and train your ear + memory muscle. Materials are just window dressing.
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Post by LeoThunder on Apr 21, 2020 5:24:11 GMT
What part interests you, the "lined" or pau ferro ? If it's the lines you'll find them pretty much useless,that's unless you develop a playing position that allows to lean over and gaze at the fingerboard. If you do that allow for loads of neck pain,sleepless nights and probably medical treatment for the change in posture. … My opinion is buy a fretless and train your ear + memory muscle. Materials are just window dressing. Lines are visible on the side. I actually wish they were only there. That's all you need and a naked fingerboard looks better if the wood is nice. Which is where material makes a real difference. I want a sidelined fretless with good looking wood.
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Post by DerAlex on Apr 22, 2020 19:16:47 GMT
What part interests you, the "lined" or pau ferro ? If it's the lines you'll find them pretty much useless,that's unless you develop a playing position that allows to lean over and gaze at the fingerboard. If you do that allow for loads of neck pain,sleepless nights and probably medical treatment for the change in posture. … My opinion is buy a fretless and train your ear + memory muscle. Materials are just window dressing. Lines are visible on the side. I actually wish they were only there. That's all you need and a naked fingerboard looks better if the wood is nice. Which is where material makes a real difference. I want a sidelined fretless with good looking wood. Well, it was more of the workmanship of the fretless AND my interest in a lined fretboard. But of course it would be more than sufficient to have the lines on the side of the fretboard - but I am pretty sure you won´t get that on a budget instrument. Or do any of you know one? Happy to shop outside of HB. I love my Human Base Roxy - but this on is fretted.
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Post by kodiakblair on Apr 22, 2020 23:29:14 GMT
But of course it would be more than sufficient to have the lines on the side of the fretboard - but I am pretty sure you won´t get that on a budget instrument. Why would the cost of the instrument have any bearing ? Fretlines are fretlines,they are placed at set positions. £200 or £2000 doesn't change those positions. If you zoom in on the Thomann photos you'll see the fretlines extend to the edge of the finger board.
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Post by LeoThunder on Apr 23, 2020 2:34:33 GMT
I don't recall seeing a fretless bass with "fret" markers on the side only but I haven't looked much.
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Post by DerAlex on Apr 27, 2020 14:30:01 GMT
I don't recall seeing a fretless bass with "fret" markers on the side only but I haven't looked much. This guy has done it: www.woodwiz.com/epoxy/testimonials.htmlI remember some german luthier (either BassLine or Human Base) did the same to some of their custom instruments. But I have no picture available.
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Post by LeoThunder on Apr 28, 2020 5:54:11 GMT
I don't recall seeing a fretless bass with "fret" markers on the side only but I haven't looked much. This guy has done it: www.woodwiz.com/epoxy/testimonials.htmlI remember some german luthier (either BassLine or Human Base) did the same to some of their custom instruments. But I have no picture available. A previous owner of my B-400FL carved marks with a knife on the side and misjudged one of them. What a savage!
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Post by JAC on Apr 29, 2020 19:47:44 GMT
I don't recall seeing a fretless bass with "fret" markers on the side only but I haven't looked much. Most of the basses that are designed as fretless have the fret marker dots on the side in the position where the fret would be. The ones that are lined have them between the frets (in the position they would be on a fretted bass). A lot of the cheaper fretless basses also have the dots in the middle of the fret positions, I think it is mainly because they use the same necks and just skip the insert of frets. There are a few brands that offer lines on the side. As KB says, the lines aren't really a great guide because it is very rare that perfect intonation is exactly on the line. On my Squire VM FL the lower part of the neck has the intonation slightly in front of the lines and and the higher part it is slightly behind.
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Post by LeoThunder on Apr 30, 2020 2:51:49 GMT
I don't recall seeing a fretless bass with "fret" markers on the side only but I haven't looked much. Most of the basses that are designed as fretless have the fret marker dots on the side in the position where the fret would be. They only mark where the 3rd, 5th, 7th, 9th, 12th frets would be (and further). With "fret markers", I mean every semitone, as lines do.
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Post by JAC on Apr 30, 2020 13:13:31 GMT
Most of the basses that are designed as fretless have the fret marker dots on the side in the position where the fret would be. They only mark where the 3rd, 5th, 7th, 9th, 12th frets would be (and further). With "fret markers", I mean every semitone, as lines do.
Again, that depends on the bass.
Some opt for dots at every fret:
Others lines just on the side:
etc.
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Post by LeoThunder on Apr 30, 2020 13:52:27 GMT
Ok. That picture is the thing I have never seen, side lines at every position.
Classical instruments have no markings whatsoever.
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