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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 2:10:02 GMT
Your own related experience is most helpful. Thank you. I have lots of available time to pursue things, so if I find any I consider of extraordinary value, I'll be sure to pass them on.
Unrelated to the Hellbabe, I have a question though, about a forum posting idiosyncrasy which is causing me no end of aggravation. How on earth do you integrate a colour highlighted hotlinked user's name within a post as you have done with mine in the preceding post?
Re Wah in general. Other than as an aural spectator as an adoring fan of Jimi Hendrix since he came into my sphere of awareness circa 1968, my experience with Wah so far is limited to playing with the auto-Wah effect on channel 2 of my Fender Champion 100 2x12 combo. And that's been fun. I'm looking forward to the Wah-wah journey.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Feb 14, 2020 4:02:15 GMT
The colour hot Linked username? That's news to me @manxcat it's just a usual tag @ + username? It's all black & white as normal on the screen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 5:29:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 9:22:11 GMT
Glad you've cracked the name tagging @manxcat . These little things are quirky. Makes me wonder what facilities I could use that I'm not using. Half the time I can't find moderating tools that are supposed to be there.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Feb 14, 2020 13:34:31 GMT
Sorry @manxcat I didn't realise what you where asking, the technical jargon threw me (easily done). 🤔 You had me worried I'd inserted something accidentally. 🙄
I had to have tagging explained to me, before that I would use the quote button. Which could make posts bloody long.
More by luck than judgement I managed to give the answer you wanted. 😎
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 21:21:13 GMT
Thanks guys. NP. I know it now and won't forget. I've been using 'forums' since fidonet and usenet days long before forum applications with more GUI candy saw the formers' popularity demise. Although I participate in numerous forums including proprietary application integrated, my favourite to use as a client remains phpBB. In all that time including using many contemporary prorietary forum applications, I've never come across the user tagging syntax convention used by Proboard. If being brutally honest, even as a generally experienced forum user several aspects of using this (Proboard) forum software I find unituitive and cumbersome rather than merely unfamiliar. The overall GUI appearance and presentation OTOH is fine otherwise. Soldiering on endeavouring to learn the quirks of Proboard regardless.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 1:34:40 GMT
It arrived yesterday. Yeah BABE!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 16:52:45 GMT
How you getting on with that Hellbabe guys?
Mine arrived this afternoon and I'm a bit troubled by its switching. I'm used to a wah being toe-down to be off and then pressing the pedal a bit to switch it on then rock backwards to wah into the lower frequencies. This Hellback throws all that on its head.
I found the little hole to adjust the time before it switches off beneath some Velcro on the bottom but haven't found it to be a lot of use. It MIGHT be if it gradually returned to normal tone. but it suddenly losing its wah sound is annoying me.
What I'm finding tricky is a noticeable switching on sound as soon as I touch the pedal but then only seemingly being able to wah up into higher frequencies. That can't be right can it? What on earth do I adjust? I want to be able to wah down into lower ones. My experiments with the big chrome knob on the right nor the three little adjustment knobs on the left don't seem to reverse this at all. Maybe I need more time with them?
I'm finding it switching itself off all the time a real nuisance too. Is there a way to leave it cocked or does it have to return to off? That spring adjustment thing maybe?
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Mar 5, 2020 17:07:34 GMT
As I posted before it really does need time spent getting it set up. I think you can adjust the screw/spring so it can be left on/cocked.
I know what your saying about it seemingly @rse about face. I'm used to it so I've sort of got ok with it.
Again it really needs a lot of fine adjusting in small increments. Sorry not much help am I 🙈 🙉 🙊
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 17:44:04 GMT
Yeah I'm a few hours in to it but I simply cannot get it to wah down into lower frequencies rather than up into higher ones. Impossible to sort of do a vomit wah or slowly wah down into the depths or wah up from the depths. It seems to take almost your standard guitar signal (give or take that annoying switching on sound) and then only be able to wah tonally up from that. This seems weird. Maybe I just got used to my wahs doing the opposite. Can't remember what the Cry Baby does. Does that wah down into lower frequencies or up into ear piercing ones?
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Mar 5, 2020 19:10:29 GMT
The hell babe is supposedly based on a cry baby from hell? Out of interest are you playing with the boost on or off. I don't know what sound you are trying to get? (Terminology I'm not sure of). Are you using with other pedals?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 21:23:23 GMT
Yeah is based very much on the Cry Baby from Hell with regard to all of the features except for the one that's letting it down: that 'heel-down on' position switch. The Cry Baby doesn't have that 'move it and it's on - stop moving it and it's off' feature. It just has a switch that you stamp on with the toe down. So with the Cry Baby you are already in a toe-down position when the pedal switches on. As soon as the pedal switch engages you have a sort of unity sound with your bypassed sound, a bit tonally different so you do hear a difference (I wish you didn't) but ready to go with a heel-down wah which drops it into filtered more bassy tones. Rocking it will kind of go ah-oo-wah. The Helbabe does the opposite. The minute it engages it is at sort of unity AND you hear it switch on then when you press the toe down it does the opposite of the Cry Baby and heads UP into filtered trebly tones and so goes oo-wah-oo but with very toppy sounds added. Using it slowly is tricky because if you rock it to far backwards it will switch off if you don't move it again quickly. I reckon that using that spring screw it may be possible to stop it rocking right back to the switched off position. But I don't think I'll bother with adjusting it because of the main problem with the wah-ing function that doesn't suit me. I'm not finding any videos online that show any way to override this. I've used it just clean and with OD in front and after it but of course, because it doesn't function like a Cry Baby it will not do a heel down OD gargle; a sound that I love to do, and I've tried it with the boost on and off, both output jacks. Sure it'll chukka-chukka in its own way.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Mar 5, 2020 21:48:17 GMT
In reality I'm new to wah pedals so I don't know any different than how the hellbabe plays. I may see if it's possible to adjust that screw or see oh the spring can be removed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 22:42:03 GMT
You're way ahead of both of us on this @defjef. My comparative knowledge and experience with Wah could be written on the back of a postage stamp ...remember those? =] That said, may and dare I say it, blindwilly3fingers exposure and my own, apart from having no basis of 'hands on' (figuratively speaking) direct operational comparison, has the advantage of us learning from the outset perceiving the Behringer Hellbabe's operation as functionally normal. Much like riding a European motorcycle of yore with gearshift and foot brake pedals on the opposite side and in the case of the gear operation, reverse orientation, the original config before the days of the Japanese revolution and dominance. Whichever one learns initially takes on the guise of normal, and it can take quite a lot of exposure before the other assumes a similar degree of reflex instinctivity, especially if it has been reinforced over a lengthy period. All I can contribute to this conversation, is that from watching a great many You Tube comparison and evaluation videos, praise is consistently lauded upon the Hellbabe. ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 22:55:32 GMT
Yeah, I know pedal videos, well any videos really, can be very persuasive @manxcat but I have learnt to take little notice of them after so many disappointments in actuality. What had completely passed me by though was this strange abnormality. I thought it would be possibly advantageous but hadn't thought through the repercussions. My fault entirely. I'm pretty sure the Bad Horsie pedal has a similar latching mechanism but maybe it has some sort of override for those who don't want it. That would make it handy. Both methods can have their uses. I just wouldn't want to be stuck with this one permanently. I have a wah function on my Boss ME-70 which is switchable in a different way again. That one will allow me to choose heel down for bassier gurgle, the method I prefer, or heel down for the trebly sounds. I never liked that one and it's different again to the Hellbabe. With all three pedals it seems I would have ALL the angles covered! Sadly the range of the Boss is poor and I need a separate wah anyway, the one on the Boss has other expression functions that I'd prefer to be using it for, particularly delay blending.
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