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Post by LeoThunder on Jan 18, 2020 9:06:51 GMT
Back on topic, the D'Angelico Premier DC 12 is discontinued. I suppose this is why the price is down. Get one now if you like it. I quite like both the black and wine red ones. It appears its Tune-o-matic bridge does not have any sort of intercourse adjustment possibilities. There's a good question to ask about 12-string guitar, a good item on the short feature list: intercourse adjustment. A little disappointing for such a reknown name. Especially when you get it on the £100 cheapo Tele at Gear4music. I wonder if the Harley Benton RB-612 has it. The bridge is covered so I can't see but it shows screws on both sides, so maybe that's what it's for. No, it looks like just bolt and nut to me:
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Post by LeoThunder on Jan 18, 2020 11:47:23 GMT
Ooh yes, what weird things. VERY adjustable. I like them! That's a lot of parts! Good shots Leo. It's a simple, clever design. The only obstacle to Rickenbacker-style stringing or any other combination should be the nut. I assume just widening slots would be sufficient, or maybe this is already done. You're not going to get one now, are you?
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Post by LeoThunder on Jan 18, 2020 12:31:02 GMT
I'm considering it Leo but I know I don't need it! I got a bit lost actually. That bridge is on which of the guitars? The Gear4Music one or the other one...or both? The pairing of a tele with a 12 string could be a match made in heaven or one made in hell. Could it be TOO MUCH 12 stringiness? I always feel there is a certain lovely phaseyness in sound that comes out of teles that doesn't seem to come out of any other guitar. I even sense that feel it unplugged but definitely it comes through to my ears when played clean into an amp. I don't know what it is or what causes it but I find it charming and inspiring. So adding 12 strings to one might make me go POP! Most likely both. The first picture I posted was from the kit in that video and looks exactly like the bridges I find on ebay, which yielded the 2nd one, except that they come in two variants: one is purely top-loader while the other has additional holes for a through-body construction. Gear4music has that very same kit, with the same transparent white finish as in the video and I just cannot see how their other guitars could have anything different. It looks the same on pictures. I am almost tempted too. That "mostly chords" at the bottom of the neck has always been a good reason for me not to want a 12-string but seeing that it can actually be made playable over the whole range, I am reconsidering. I might not like Telecasters, yet single coils are the better option for this too, certainly better than humbuckers on the D'Angelico or the Artec "mini humbuckers" of the Harley Benton and it's the longer scale length too (I don't like the 24,75" scale that much).
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Post by LeoThunder on Jan 18, 2020 14:28:48 GMT
Yes, it's the same. No surprise. I assume this is the Fender design so it gets copied and produced cheaply. I saw the Sunburst but I don't like it. Too dark and it has a black back so no. I would be happier with the natural version.
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Post by LeoThunder on Jan 18, 2020 14:39:41 GMT
The original 1966 Fender design was simple enough. Twelve screws and twelve springs: This is the 1985 Stratocaster XII bridge, similar to the one we are discussing now:
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Post by LeoThunder on Jan 18, 2020 14:43:56 GMT
And they wanted extra room for the Fender logo:
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Post by LeoThunder on Jan 19, 2020 4:30:01 GMT
Look what someone went and did! Oh! I was toying with the idea of replacing the bridge on my hard-tail Strat' with a 12-string and realised the headstock would be a problem. Well, not to everyone, it seems. It's still a narrow neck, though. I'd rather have the 48 mm version.
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Post by LeoThunder on Jan 19, 2020 11:29:46 GMT
Interesting. They list both 2" and 50 mm as nut width (in two separate lines, for some obscure reason and only for the natural finish). I was looking at the German version which does not list these figures so I took 48 mm from ebay listings of the kit (1 & 7/8") assuming it would be the same but the necks are different. The kits have 21 frets while the assembled Gear4music guitar has 22. Now I want to check if the 60 mm of the bridge are standard.
50 mm is even better. Same figure for the body thickness, which is 4.5 mm more than a Strat'. This thing must be heavy. Poplar laminate as fingerboard? Some new invention?
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