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Post by LeoThunder on Mar 27, 2020 6:02:36 GMT
Springs are meant to be parallel. Having them otherwise inscreases tension a little. Thinking back on this, I start to think it makes no difference. Tension on the spring is higher when it's at an angle, we see it gets longer, but the longitudinal component of that tension should be just the same while a perpendicular component is added that does not participate in the balance. This is supposing a linear relation between length and tension at this point of the springs, I guess. No idea how springs work. There's got to be some elastic distortion at some point, maybe on both ends. Do Harley Benton springs work in the linear, "clean" zone or are they on the edge of "break up"? Are these solid state springs? I would assume so. They look Metal!!! to me. Does anyone here know more about springs physics?
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Post by buscon on Apr 26, 2020 8:58:41 GMT
I'd love to know more about the neck profile too. There have been rumours or reports of a change to something thinner recently.
where did you read about such rumors? did you ask Thomann? I would love harley benton fender style guitars with a thinner neck.
The ST-62CC RW Inca Silver looks good, I am considering this one:
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Post by LeoThunder on Apr 26, 2020 9:35:31 GMT
I'd love to know more about the neck profile too. There have been rumours or reports of a change to something thinner recently. where did you read about such rumors? did you ask Thomann? I would love harley benton fender style guitars with a thinner neck. I did not ask. I don't remember exactly but I think someone in some recent video was saying something about a thinner neck or at least describing it in a way that didn't match the bulky profile of earlier models. So I'm just waiting for someone to buy a new one and take measurements.
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Post by buscon on Apr 26, 2020 13:09:35 GMT
I did not ask. I don't remember exactly but I think someone in some recent video was saying something about a thinner neck or at least describing it in a way that didn't match the bulky profile of earlier models. So I'm just waiting for someone to buy a new one and take measurements. ok, thanks! I guess that would be stated on the list of properties of a certain guitar, a thinner neck would make the fretboard radius smaller, while so far I always see 350 mm (13,78"). I really hope harley benton does that for fender like models, it would sell for sure many more guitars to fender aficionados.
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Post by LeoThunder on Apr 26, 2020 13:44:54 GMT
No, a thinner neck has no relation to fretboard radius. I have wondered why the ST-62 has such a thick neck and the answer is in the "vintage" ambition of the model, which is also found in the TE-52.
They could at least have gone to thinner neck with the ST-70 and ST-90 and maybe they have. At least the 2019 ST-90 has 22 and 24 mm (1st and 12th fret) instead of 23 and 24.5 for the ST-62. Still on the thicker side of things, though.
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Post by buscon on Apr 27, 2020 7:54:09 GMT
No, a thinner neck has no relation to fretboard radius. true, you are right, I got confused. I have wondered why the ST-62 has such a thick neck and the answer is in the "vintage" ambition of the model, which is also found in the TE-52. They could at least have gone to thinner neck with the ST-70 and ST-90 and maybe they have. At least the 2019 ST-90 has 22 and 24 mm (1st and 12th fret) instead of 23 and 24.5 for the ST-62. Still on the thicker side of things, though. good point, probably they just want to keep it standard for all guitars...
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Post by LeoThunder on Apr 27, 2020 8:23:16 GMT
I have wondered why the ST-62 has such a thick neck and the answer is in the "vintage" ambition of the model, which is also found in the TE-52. They could at least have gone to thinner neck with the ST-70 and ST-90 and maybe they have. At least the 2019 ST-90 has 22 and 24 mm (1st and 12th fret) instead of 23 and 24.5 for the ST-62. Still on the thicker side of things, though. good point, probably they just want to keep it standard for all guitars... Actually not, since the ST-90 has a different profile. My ST-62DLX also has a different one than the regular ST-62 so they are not trying to reduce cost this way. The ST-62 would be "62" in spirit… except the 1960's Fender "Oval C" was 20.1 and 23.6 mm thick, so not at all what the ST-62 comes with. The 1959 Fender C was 20.1 24.6, so thicker in the middle but already slim at the head. You'd have to go back to the 1956 Fender V (22.4 24.9) to get closer to the ST-62 but then it's a V shape. Then the Harley Benton ST-59 has 21 24.5 (V shape too). So the "62" thing is misleading, really. It even comes with maple fingerboards which were no longer on offer in 1962 Fender. We still don't know what's on the ST-62CC models…
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