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Post by LeoThunder on Mar 7, 2020 18:37:23 GMT
I need to read the rest of the comments but I wanted to say I loosened the truss rod about a 1/4 turn and the buzz went away. Set 12th fret to .065 and all seems to be good. Yes, it's that simple. Well done. Some people are afraid of the thing…
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Post by Djangle on Mar 7, 2020 23:57:53 GMT
Unless its a rubber neck the neck should not bend, irrespective of whether it's flat or in the playing position. Some people say the strings can sag towards the fretboard when the guitar is flat? Tbh I can't see it making much difference as the strings are under tension. I would do it in the playing position though as it is far easier to see when taking measurements, than having to squat down to eye level if you have the guitar on a bench/table. The difference is around 0.002" imperial blindwilly3fingers....Dan Erlwine once measured the action at the 12th on one of Bonamassa's vintage semihollow's lying flat and in the playing position. So nothing to lose sleep over for sure. I also remember Dan commenting on Joe's preferred action on this particular guitar which was around 0.09-0.08 which is roughly over 2mm and saying how great the action/playability was on it and I happily agreed as I like the my action roughly the same on my guitars. Surprisingly Joe's personal guitar tech mentioned that the action on most of his other guitars was higher than the semihollow but this may be because he likes to play slide too I suppose. Not a huge JB fan but he is a bit of likeable guitar geek like most of us on here and a phenomenal blues player. Sorry for going off on tangent from the op but the spec list I posted earlier had me pulling out my machine rule to check the nut action and relief spec on my two G scale semi hollows today to see if they corresponded with Gibson or Dan's. Turns out they were closer to Gibson good enough for me.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Mar 8, 2020 0:18:26 GMT
I think if you aim for G specs or a tad lower on a 24 & 3/4 scale guitar, you get a very playable instrument. I raised the action a tad on my fender scale guitars a few months back. I find it easier for bends and vibrato with the action not super low. I suppose we all have our preferences Djangle. 🤔 As brewguy will find his personal preferences for action, nut material, string gauge, etc 😋
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Post by Djangle on Mar 8, 2020 0:38:32 GMT
Same for me I just can't get catch the string bends properly with lower action so it's a compromise. I also pick too heavily at times playing unplugged so need to ease up and develop a lighter touch when I plug in.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Mar 8, 2020 1:00:07 GMT
I find a lot of things to do with guitar are a compromise. 😎
One thing for sure you never stop learning with it. 😁
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Post by DefJef on Mar 8, 2020 1:54:38 GMT
I'm the same as you Djangle and blindwilly3fingers . I used to think the whole guitar game was about aiming for the lowest possible action and would take mine there and feel very proud. But then, yes, string bends were harder. Either the string I was bending or the ones I wanted out of the way would be difficult to push. I soon realised I wanted the action higher. And the higher it goes the happier I get. I even set one guitar up to a height I normally would have thought of as ridiculous but used it for slide. Yet I actually found no actual problem playing it normally too. I don't fuss about ultimately low action any more.
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Post by LeoThunder on Mar 8, 2020 6:16:34 GMT
I used to think the whole guitar game was about aiming for the lowest possible action and would take mine there and feel very proud. Lowest action is a measure of the build quality of a guitar. It tells about limits or possibilities, like the intonation range of a bridge or the shoe shop carrying more sizes. The lowest I ever achieved was on a Schecter Omen 7 (1,05 - 1,2 mm). I have no reasons to doubt people who keep praising this brand. The 2nd lowest was on a rejected HB SC-450 Plus after some levelling, which is a testimony on the potential quality of Harley Benton in the 160€ range. I must say "potential" because I have read here of the same model with an unlucky neck angle that would not allow that range. Quality spread is a fact. That same guitar's blackwood fingerboard still hasn't moved or made any problems either, by the way. It's the one Les Paul I'll have and keep, because it's just a lucky one. For some reason, I don't think of my SC-7 as "a Les Paul".
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