3,457 posts
|
Post by LeoThunder on Mar 13, 2020 13:21:52 GMT
Oh by the way, I have seen 1500-1600 € Fender guitars with misaligned poles. "Cheap stuff" my ass. No, don't sit on them!!!
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2020 13:27:56 GMT
Oh by the way, I have seen 1500-1600 € Fender guitars with misaligned poles. "Cheap stuff" my ass. No, don't sit on them!!!
Yeah, let's draw the attention away with a joke. Again, you were proven wrong by someone.
|
|
3,457 posts
|
Post by LeoThunder on Mar 13, 2020 13:30:23 GMT
Yeah, let's draw the attention away with a joke. Again, you were proven wrong by someone.
Oh was I? Tell me where, then. I'll take you up to it.
|
|
52 posts
|
Post by simontemplar on Mar 13, 2020 14:00:36 GMT
aw man.. now I'm new here, so I don't know who has squabbles with whom, but everyone has been cool with me, so is it out of line to say let's take a breath and try to be cool with each other? I'm new, so forgive me if I'm being presumptuous by saying anything, but I'm wondering if there's a cultural thing going on. Small talk and banter will fly in the UK and the US, but even being the product of both cultures, it gets old. My friends in Germany just get straight to the point with no BS. If I make a mistake, I am corrected, but I never take it to be like a dick move or anything like that. Plain spoken is refreshing. LeoThunder has been cool to me the whole time I've been here, so I have to speak up for a brother. But I am new, and everyone else has been cool too. So thanks, and sorry if I'm being out of line here. Best ST
|
|
DefJef
THBC Moderator
Due to musical differences I've decided I can't work with myself any more.
|
Post by DefJef on Mar 13, 2020 14:30:18 GMT
Interesting simontemplar . I was listening to a programme the other day about what it's like doing business in Europe, US and UK. All were different. In general, from the various business people who contributed, the mainland Europeans seemed to like to be given clear instructions then left to get on with it. The Brits preferred to be involved in the decision making and also seemed to like to joke about stuff which left the Americans confused unless the Brits learned to say, "Just joking" afterwards. Americans liked to celebrate when projects were only 75% completed. Brits found THAT confusing, "You're going too soon!" Also Brits liked to do a 'business lunch' with sandwiches around the meeting table so as not to waste time and think it had gone very well and been nice and constructive. Europeans could find that HUGELY inhospitable. In contrast Brits trying to do business in Europe wondered why so much time was being wasted for two hours or more in a restaurant whilst their hosts felt they were doing business whilst doing that. One businesswoman wondered why Americans often seemed to feel that asking how somebody was was a waste of time. Not interested in the person they were dealing with but more about the business they wanted to do. I seem to remember Trump saying something similar to that. All cultural adaptations that are likely to trip folks up...and, of course, all anecdotal and generalising!
|
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2020 14:42:38 GMT
Anyway, in the context of this topic I'm still baffled that ancient cultures could build megastructures with masterful precision, while modern manufacturers with all their robotics and highly engineered tools fail to assemble a decently aligned (string-to-pickup) guitar.
|
|
52 posts
|
Post by simontemplar on Mar 13, 2020 14:43:55 GMT
All these things are probably why advertising doesn't travel well. US adverts seem to virtually never get onto UK TV screens. And if they do they'll frequently be edited and revoiced so badly that they seem dumb. I can remember thinking Australian adverts were hilarious. They didn't faff about much, would use humour and often just a very direct approach: "Buy our cars this weekend. They're cheap!" Meanwhile in the UK we'll watch horses racing around in slow motion through surf and turf and rarely have a clue what we are supposed to do about it. All excellent points. I've heard it said by Brits that Americans suffer from an Irony Deficiency. And that just tickled me.
American ads are so insulting. My wife and I just mute the TV when they come on. Not that I can be bothered to watch TV; the shows are almost as insulting as the ads. Unless it's a BBC show (and I'm not trying to be a suck up here; Britain makes more quality programming than anyone else in the English speaking world, and I'm just talking about The Young Ones).
My favorite linguistic/advert misfires from the States were these:
Pepsi- the choice of a new generation apparently was translated into Mandarin as Pepsi: it brings your dead ancestors back to life.
The other brilliant one was the Chevy Nova. When they tried to sell them in Mexico, apparently, no one realized that in Spanish "No va" means "it doesn't go."
|
|
52 posts
|
Post by simontemplar on Mar 13, 2020 14:44:28 GMT
Anyway, in the context of this topic I'm still baffled that ancient cultures could build megastructures with masterful precision, while modern manufacturers with all their robotics and highly engineered tools fail to assemble a decently aligned string-to-pickup guitar. We need the aliens to come back and fix this for sure!
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2020 14:46:06 GMT
Anyway, in the context of this topic I'm still baffled that ancient cultures could build megastructures with masterful precision, while modern manufacturers with all their robotics and highly engineered tools fail to assemble a decently aligned string-to-pickup guitar. We need the aliens to come back and fix this for sure! Indeed!!!
|
|
52 posts
|
Post by simontemplar on Mar 13, 2020 14:52:50 GMT
We need the aliens to come back and fix this for sure! Indeed!!! One of these days, someone is going to get into Area 51 in Nevada. That'll be amazing. It won't be me though! LOL
|
|
DefJef
THBC Moderator
Due to musical differences I've decided I can't work with myself any more.
|
Post by DefJef on Mar 13, 2020 14:57:52 GMT
All excellent points. I've heard it said by Brits that Americans suffer from an Irony Deficiency. And that just tickled me.
Unless it's a BBC show (and I'm not trying to be a suck up here; Britain makes more quality programming than anyone else in the English speaking world, and I'm just talking about The Young Ones).
Surely not now with Netflix and Amazon and FX investing so heavily? I am amazed at the number of series pouring out of these producers. Not that I watch many. Still waiting for a new Fargo series though. And those Fargos are stacked with irony. No deficiency there. You mean you DIDN'T like The Young Ones?
|
|
3,457 posts
|
Post by LeoThunder on Mar 13, 2020 14:59:11 GMT
One businesswoman wondered why Americans often seemed to feel that asking how somebody was was a waste of time. Not interested in the person they were dealing with but more about the business they wanted to do. I seem to remember Trump saying something similar to that. That's interesting. I was under an opposite impression from seeing videos done by Americans in which host and guest fake meeting and greeting each other, asking the obligatory "how are you" in front of an audience who apparently doesn't feel mocked. On the other hand, when Rob Chapman shouts "Greeetings!" to the camera, I feel he's just being polite to his audience in his quirky way and I like John Robson's "I do hope you're well". Both are plausible, as opposed to those who actually ask something to a camera that cannot reply.
|
|
|