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Post by waynet53 on Nov 1, 2018 3:30:37 GMT
My 1st post after years of guitars (mainly high end) I'd never owned a Paul Read Smith but liked the look of them to me they seem like a Les Paul with improvements better headstock design etc. After seeing reviews for this HB flamed black cherry hardtail I was impressed,and couldn't believe the price for this spec. I decided at this giveaway price I'd nothing to lose and ordered the hardtail version. It arrived and wow I was truly amazed I've used Wilco pups before and they were always ok but this arrived with Roswell pickups,nice slightly lower output very clear not at all muddy, coil tapped and worked well in all combinations no problems at all with these in fact I preferred the output of these (great for blues)' The fit and finish of this guitar is amazing and not just at the price, better than my last 2009 Gibson.Great to play great sound (tried thru several amps) especially good with tube amps Vox ac30 ,Vox ac10c, Peavey 20w.This guitar is excellent both in quality and bang for buck, when looking at New guitars in the future I'll check to see if HB do one before I hand over the cash. I paid £173 for this and it feels and plays like a £600 or around that price point! Very impressive, how long will these remain this cheep?
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Post by LeoThunder on Nov 1, 2018 4:41:07 GMT
This shows again that guitars are strings and electronics on pieces of wood. None of it is extremely difficult to make and putting it all together is a lot like cooking. Anyone can learn how to reproduce someone else's recipe easily. There is no need for rare ingredients to dig out, no blood ritual to carry out to bind the Holy Tone, so beyond the cost of bare quality minimum, this exemplifies the idea of an asking price.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Nov 1, 2018 11:52:42 GMT
Congratulations on the new guitar, good to see it exceeded your expectations. 👍
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Post by micoli on Nov 1, 2018 19:22:06 GMT
Hi waynet53, congrats on your new guitar. You may be interested in this YouTube review: They compare a PRS with a Harley Benton CS-24T. The HB comes out very favourably in comparison to a much more expensive guitar.
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Post by roberto on Nov 1, 2018 19:40:47 GMT
Nice to hear good HB things Congratulation!
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Post by DerAlex on Nov 2, 2018 14:57:08 GMT
Hi waynet53, congrats on your new guitar. You may be interested in this YouTube review: They compare a PRS with a Harley Benton CS-24T. The HB comes out very favourably in comparison to a much more expensive guitar. In my humble but correct opinion there is no need for further comparison videos between budget HB guitars and more expensive ones. Those guys got it right 100%. Rarely do you get a lemon and with the amp/cab influencing much of the sound it is all down to personal preference. Can you be inspired by the budget guitar? Do you want 6 different types but only have the budget of 600€? Do you get inspired by high end craftmanship and exquisite materials? Do you want exclusivity? ... My GAS has been reduced dramatically after having owned a high end guitar and finding out I still sound like crap. So I better invest in practicing and playing than chasing gear. YMMV
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Post by waynet53 on Nov 2, 2018 16:18:09 GMT
I can’t agree more no good to have all the gear but no idea No one has ever been as good as they could be, practice practice and more practice it gets better but we all know we could spend more time practicing. However it’s. life balance to you sacrifice seeing your kids group, do you sacrifice your marriage? Do you forsake all other pleasures yes you could of course and become more practiced and one would hope a much better player. Same thing with money you could spend every cent own the greatest guitars ever made but what would you compromise to doing it. The home all dared and worn out not decorated yet would this make your playing better also would you enjoy playing as much as you do now or just put yourself in a treadmill it’s all about life balance yin and yang or something like that. Buy what suits you if it’s half decent and it’s in you it’ll sound good! I’ve seen guys with plenty of spare cash buy great guitars and still sound crap. Then you get a youngster with pocket money playing a cheaper Yamaha and sounding really great (plus putting time in) remember being young and having the luxury of spare time, those were the days 🤔 yes they really were great times 😉
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Post by LeoThunder on Nov 2, 2018 16:29:10 GMT
My GAS has been reduced dramatically after having owned a high end guitar and finding out I still sound like crap. So I better invest in practicing and playing than chasing gear. YMMV There is a constant myth about expensive stuff and the implied quality of it. It is only partly true. Once a guitar is good, only minimal improvements remain possible, no matter how much effort is thrown into it. So you can triple the price and increase sustain by 15%. Great. You don't even need that much sustain. I must admit, however, that some of the shortcomings I found in my Harley Benton do put me off a little. I accept them for the price. I bought a 160€ guitar and got tone pots of different types in it, as if they had been picked at random. I found out because I wasn't happy with the way they worked. I can change them. For the price, I can accept the compromise. When I open an Ibanez or a Squier from the 350€ segment, I see wires neatly tied together and I experience no mismatch in the electronics. So I prefer to buy them used for 200€ than invest in the 150€ HB stuff. The cheap bass I got last has saddles that will not allow an action below 2mm. My Ibanez and Squier basses do. I suspect this was the same system as on the recent TE-70. Someone here also reported the action could not be lowered enough. I love my "stolen" fretless, though. Past these things, however, the room between 500 and 2000€ isn't filled with improvements as drastic as we'd like to believe. The next thing is that sound is for the most part shaped by the chain after the guitar. The quality of pick-ups is a myth too. They sound different when they have a name but they are just a more expensive way of applying a filter. Tweaking my modelling amp has confirmed everything I always knew about signal processing. If the signal at the source is not truncated (hello Gibson & co) it can be made to sound any way I want. Turning knobs or selecting models is cheaper than buying pick-ups. What remains is the shape of a guitar. Is is comfortable, ergonomic? It it pleasing to the eye? Is it nicely made or does it look like a cheap job? Is the neck the right profile? These things make a real difference on both playability and motivation. They are no longer a matter of price.
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Post by waynet53 on Nov 7, 2018 2:06:59 GMT
Mine has the Roswell pickups and no problems not muddy coil tapped effective switches pups and all sounding good vox ac30 or 10 both good and leaves 20watt tube head through a vox 2x12 cab with greenbacks good. Then adding pedal board still good, maybe a good batch I can only say I'm still very happy with this guitar in fact I'm playing this more than my LP feels nice to play especially good for soloing and blues. THIS GUITAR PUNCHES WELL ABOVE ITS WEIGHT
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