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Post by pragi on Aug 13, 2018 22:41:31 GMT
Hi Gents, got the Fusion HSH EB Aqua on the 1. August and must admit , that I can understand that there are some reviews on that guitar which are not fully contented, specially for metal guitar player aso. At least for me it took some time playing and making different sounds with this guitar - in short :to understand this gift. Yes, the PU´s have low level output but giving my (Fender)Amps a bit more volume , bass and mids and less heights compensated that. I can get the Fusion HSH EB Aqua to sing like D.Gilmore Strat ( of course I´m not the/a Pinkfloyd guitar player) and make real rock, funk , fusion and crunch sounds aso- in best quality.
The tremolo problem is imo no real problem - just getting rid of the retainer bar and putting some graphit powder on the saddle make this guitar absolut stable in tuning.Have to get a string guide and a replacing single coil PU for the middle position cause , like Jonathan is right mentioning in his review that it´s a bit to noisy. The stability in tuning and the body shaping is better as on my Fender American Strat from 1978.( Ok , sacrilege ) The binding is perfectly made. The top is of veneer, my guitar technician told me. For me this is a great guitar , but shure nothing for heavy players cause of the pick ups.
With the little and cheap mods which Jonathan ( see the link above ) recommends in his video review the Harley Benton Fusion HSH is an awesome guitar.
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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 14, 2018 8:19:28 GMT
Thank you for sharing your personal experience. I'm pretty sure the pick-ups are up to the task after what I have heard in videos. I liked them.
I fail to understand the apparently irrational attraction to "high output pick-ups". To my understanding, these were relevant in the 1970s with amplifiers that had to be driven hard to get into the distortion area, even though I do not see how pedals couldn't provide the required boost. Today, I see amplifiers with integrated "gain" controls like the Fender Supersonic and suppose they can be driven by anything, making high output pick-ups a limitation of the available dynamics more than anything else. Am I wrong? Missing something?
I wonder if that retainer bar can be lubricated and maybe loosened a little instead of removed. I did that to the string trees on my ST-62 and it dramatically improved the situation. I'll probably still spend 4€ on the roller variant next time I order something but I see no urgency any more.
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Post by pragi on Aug 14, 2018 10:23:53 GMT
Hi Leo,
thanks for your comment and hinds :
I already tried to loose the retainer bar , no luck, but I
will give it anothet try by lubricating it.
Do you have any idea which oil to use for that ?
Sure it is possible to compensate the low level pu´s via
a high gain amp, but I don´t think that the attack of the HSH is made for metall (not fast enough imo)
and the stenghts in heights of the Fusion HSH can be compensated that much so that the strenghts of this pu´s are in the low mids/ high lows.
Correct me if I am wrong.
regards
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Post by pragi on Aug 14, 2018 10:41:52 GMT
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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 14, 2018 11:12:18 GMT
I put Vaseline underneath my string trees. It has the advantage of not being a liquid and stopped all the squeaking I was hearing. I thought blackening the strings with a pencil would be just as good but I think it didn't work.
The attack of pick-ups is something different, not related to their output level but to their frequency response. Is this what makes a good "metal" pick.up? I have no idea…
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Post by oghkhood on Aug 14, 2018 11:30:18 GMT
I think the very first quality for a metal pup is to not get muddy on powerchords, wich was the lvl of saturation.
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Post by pragi on Aug 14, 2018 16:13:27 GMT
I put Vaseline underneath my string trees. It has the advantage of not being a liquid and stopped all the squeaking I was hearing. I thought blackening the strings with a pencil would be just as good but I think it didn't work. The attack of pick-ups is something different, not related to their output level but to their frequency response. Is this what makes a good "metal" pick.up? I have no idea… I think agood heavy pick needs all what´s mentioned : has not get muddy on powerchords, has to have a fast attack and strenghts in the low mids/ high lows
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Post by pragi on Aug 14, 2018 16:15:03 GMT
I put Vaseline underneath my string trees. It has the advantage of not being a liquid and stopped all the squeaking I was hearing. I thought blackening the strings with a pencil would be just as good but I think it didn't work. The attack of pick-ups is something different, not related to their output level but to their frequency response. Is this what makes a good "metal" pick.up? I have no idea… Double post , merda...
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Post by beyonder77 on Aug 16, 2018 7:54:33 GMT
Hello guys, Just a very quick reply to the « retainer bar lubrication » question: Actually owning the HSH roasted maple model, I tried that solution with industrial quality graphite grease, but without any success. I’ll try this weekend to remove the retainer bar, then order string trees at some point. I’ll come back here soon to give you a better review of the guitar. Cheers!
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Post by pragi on Oct 16, 2018 19:52:45 GMT
Gents, had an idea to fix the saddle,at least for me it does work: I filed the saddle careful a bit with a nail file, now the tremolo , with new strings , works perfect (Fusion HSH aqua eb)Used also graphit powder. Put also the pick ups 2 cycles up , now the pu´s sound much stronger.Only the SC has to be changed imo cause it´s to noisy.
cheers
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Post by LeoThunder on Oct 16, 2018 22:00:09 GMT
Gents, had an idea to fix the saddle,at least for me it does work: I filed the saddle careful a bit with a nail file, now the tremolo , with new strings , works perfect (Fusion HSH aqua eb)Used also graphit powder. Put also the pick ups 2 cycles up , now the pu´s sound much stronger.Only the SC has to be changed imo cause it´s to noisy. I assume you mean the nut (Sattel?), not the saddles. I had to file the one on my Jazz Bass because my tapewound strings were too thick. Not that I'd want to bend them, although… it can sound real funny on the B string. I barely ever bend, though. Interesting point about the pick-up height. I see a lot of potential for exaggeration of this, people taking them down and down and down… I'm not sure the benefit is that pronounced in terms of clarity. Past a certain distance, it only takes the level down, which is what the volume knob is for.
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Post by pragi on Oct 18, 2018 21:10:29 GMT
yep, you are right, it´s called nut. I adjusted the height of the pus only a bit, the sound is much stronger/heavier now. and also still clear.Good enough for a jam, not for the studio imo.
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