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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 10, 2018 3:34:27 GMT
3.2 Kg is a pleasant weight. Playability is praised as well as the quality of both vibrato systems, the electronics and the fretboards. Retainer bar is an issue on the HSH models. To be resolved in the next batch. For some unclear reason, same pick-ups produce different sounds on HSH and HH models. (both videos start with the neck pickup, full then split) Finish is said to look flat. Matching headstock is not always really matching. Black backs look… black Someone in the comments reported insane dimensions for the neck of his Roasted Maple model, thinner than an Ibanez Wizard but Cory makes no mention of such a thing for the standard necks.
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Post by salteedog on Aug 10, 2018 9:20:42 GMT
I still wonder what the big attraction is for these over and above the CST models. The flamed tops look ugly to my eyes - very eighties styled! I can see the attraction of stainless steel frets (if they are properly leveled) for gigging musicians but other than that they seem over-priced in comparison to other HB models.
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Post by Vincent on Aug 10, 2018 9:42:46 GMT
Has anyone seen one of these Fusion quilt or flame tops in person? Cory says because it is only a veneer you don't get that 3D effect when you tilt it to the light. I noticed this when watching one of Henning's demos also. In my experience it should happen whether it is a veneer or solid piece.
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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 10, 2018 9:49:21 GMT
Well, as far as I'm concerned, most Harley Bentons are either very plain or hopelessly stuck in copying old legends. Even the 8-string toad was a copy of something else but I didn't know it before so at least it felt new… This is a departure and a first step at creating something more original. Yes, I know the Roasted Maple is a copy of some horrendously priced signature thing by some long fingered player. I don't remember such tops from the 80s, maybe I wasn't paying attention (I definitely wasn't). I quite liked them until I saw real pictures. What remains is the "modern" configuration (HSH, coil split, Floyd Rose, rounded neck heels - yes, this is "modern" only in relation to those hopelessly backwards looking Squier things) together with, at last, some clear enough sounding pick-ups. I don't care for the "pro" features myself (unless not muffled pick-ups are to be considered "pro"), meaning this series was actually not designed for me, even though the "pro" term was left out of the product descriptions completely. They are meant to justify the price and I suppose they do. On second thought, however, I feel like I'd be better served with some 2nd hand Ibanez on the purely aesthetics level.
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Post by Vincent on Aug 10, 2018 9:54:27 GMT
I still wonder what the big attraction is for these over and above the CST models. The flamed tops look ugly to my eyes - very eighties styled! I can see the attraction of stainless steel frets (if they are properly leveled) for gigging musicians but other than that they seem over-priced in comparison to other HB models. I think this series is very interesting. And the features, for the price seem quite incredible. Fancy timbers, SS frets, Floyd Rose 1000 trems.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 10:06:14 GMT
If it is a real flamed wood even if thin as 1 mm it needs to have that 3D effect otherwise I would be in doubt! This could very well be a well-done photo flame! Vietnam factories maybe learning how China first started building guitars The TE-70RW has a top made of "artificial rosewood" which could mean photo flame! TThere is a Swedish review stating its a photo flame as that dude was drilling new holes for the other type of ferules and he exposed the woods! Pity really!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 10:11:56 GMT
We must realize that Thomann and HB are BUSINESS! They are selling a huge amount of HB's which means at some stage they will start cutting corners to make more profit! Im sure in the start HB was just a beginners guitar to get new people into the music so they can buy extra strings, an amp, pedals etc ... I used to work in a zoo shop and we sold cheap aquariums making no money on them just to get the people to start it up in our shop buying fish, plants, plant fertilizer, CO2 bottles, fish food, water conditioners, algae scrapers, gravel, air bubble pumps, ornaments! We realized that without the aquarium itself none of the other items can be sold! And we sold very well because of the cheap aquariums!
Im sure HB and Thomann were thinking the same. BUT now that HB is basically having such huge following they are eyeing extra profit on the guitar itself! Cutting corners is the way to go sadly.
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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 10, 2018 10:17:09 GMT
The TE-70RW has a top made of "artificial rosewood" which could mean photo flame! TThere is a Swedish review stating its a photo flame as that dude was drilling new holes for the other type of ferules and he exposed the woods! Pity really! That photo flame video was about a TE-20.
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Post by Vincent on Aug 10, 2018 10:28:20 GMT
Photo flames, ink-jet tops or whatever we prefer to call them are fine when they are defined as such in ad-copy. To sell them as veneers is misleading at best. Of course in this instance it can only be speculation until someone proves otherwise and I am not calling HB out.
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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 10, 2018 11:02:10 GMT
A photo would be the same on all guitars. This picture shows two different tops taken from different videos (one is Cory's, the other one is here). Differences in the figuration can be easily seen.
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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 10, 2018 11:44:25 GMT
Anyone interested in this quilting business might like to read the two links here. ChatoyancyFiguringAlways loved this song… and the whole album… and the band… (yes, showing my age - I know)
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Post by oghkhood on Aug 10, 2018 13:44:56 GMT
Queen ... .... with some bits of King Crimson and Jethro Tull in it
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Post by LeoThunder on Aug 10, 2018 16:49:17 GMT
Queen ... .... with some bits of King Crimson and Jethro Tull in it Queen? Interesting. I can't tell. Never listened to them, apart from "We are the Champions" which I still associate with the football world cup in 1978. I grew up on this, however: I wore out the original LP and had to buy it again Now that was some funny "fusion", I guess. I never realised there was some stereo saxophone before… These guys certainly kept the spirit going, maybe even got better with time.
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Post by Vincent on Aug 10, 2018 18:41:06 GMT
A photo would be the same on all guitars. This picture shows two different tops taken from different videos (one is Cory's, the other one is here). Differences in the figuration can be easily seen. If they used the same photo on all of the guitars then yes. They could have a hard drive stacked full of photos. Hard to imagine they have thousands considering the work involved to photograph them all though.
Is it possible such a thing exists like a random flamey/quilty pattern photo generator? A Photoshop plug in? Anyone know?
Get your photo flame photoflames.com/
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