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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 13:36:49 GMT
I never bought a Boss pedal. Mainly because I read about them having Noise issues. Also some drive pedals being too trebly. So far the only pedal that gave me noise was NUX Amp Sim, HB American Sound, HB Dyna Comp.
My CKK pedals are very much on the silent side. The Mooer Twin Reecho can introduce a bit of hum but noting major.
I'm looking at buying a 7 band Boss EQ and maybe Boss Blues Driver , second hand. Still worry about this noise stuff people seem to mention. This was the main reason Keeley and others modded Boss pedals (and even EHX too). I wonder if I'm better off getting the Mooer Blues Drive instead or even the Mooer Blues Crab.
Anyway, I hope some of you use/d Boss pedals and can say more about them
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Post by blablas on Sept 14, 2018 14:08:31 GMT
There are quiet a few Boss pedals on my board and even more in my possession, never had noise issues with any of them. They are also almost indestructible, never had any other brand of pedal als solidly built as the Boss ones.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 18:38:47 GMT
My Bugera V55 is based more on Fender than anything else. I now as after playing the Fender Deluxe Reverb they did sound very similar! Used my old NUX Drive Core on its Bass Boost setting and discovered it colors the tone if switched off! BIG no no as my CKK Lunar Drive is so clear and dynamic need no box to crap over it once disengaged! If Boss is known for this buffered bypass then I say good bye to it and look elsewhere!
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Post by Djangle on Sept 17, 2018 8:17:26 GMT
This may be helpful.......from PMT Online Bypass or buffered?
The truth is, there’s no right or wrong answer to this question as both types of pedals have their benefits and disadvantages. Let's pit True Bypass VS Buffered and find out the differences.
Benefits of true bypass:
If you have a short signal chain, i.e. a 10ft guitar lead and two pedals through to the amp via a 6ft lead, then you should be OK with a true bypass set up as the signal doesn’t have far to go. If you want every nuance of your tone unaffected and clean then true bypass is a great option.
Disadvantages of true bypass:
If you’re running a lot of pedals as most musicians do these days, through a 20ft cable from guitar to pedalboard and pedal board to amp, using only true bypass will affect your signal and drain your tone. The key is to use as short a cable as possible, otherwise you’ll get some high end roll off.
Benefits of buffered pedals:
If you’re running long cables and more than 2 pedals, a buffered pedal will restore and strengthen the signal ensuring the amp gets all that juicy goodness from your guitar. A buffered pedal makes sure everything is heard how it should be.
Disadvantages of buffered pedals:
There’s no real disadvantages to buffered pedals at all. Unless you get a badly designed one that drives your signal too hard, there’s not really a downside to using one. Thanks to the likes of BOSS pedals raising the standard of buffered pedals, they’re the benchmark that pedal companies try to get to when they create a buffered pedal.
Some guitarists will argue that using buffered pedals exclusively will change your sound, but this comes down to personal preference really. To be quite honest, it will only strengthen the signal, rather than colour it.
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Post by DefJef on Sept 17, 2018 8:48:39 GMT
That is pretty much true Djangle . On stage in particular where cable lengths need to be a lot longer then buffering is a must. It could very well be part of the success of Boss pedals. Seeing favourite players on stage using those brightly coloured boxes would have been a huge marketing boost. In live venues where volume is massive and room acoustics unpredictable I would see every advantage and no (?) problems in using them. At home with minimal runs the advantage of buffering can be limited to quieter switching and reverb and delay tails not being cut off when switching off. It will all depend on your other equipment and your ear and personal taste as to whether the buffered sound is for you. If it's an always on pedal and the sound is pleasing me I'm not bothered how I'm getting it. But if there seems to be a change in the sound that I'm not liking even when pedals are off I will make some investigations and it has regularly turned out to be my Boss compressor, chorus or auto-wah that's doing it. In the case of the auto-wah I even resorted to side chaining it to get it right out of the picture if it wasn't on. This was even necessary live. In the end it's become a bit of a redundant pedal except for special purposes when recording. Now running through a Boss ME-70 multifx I am quite aware that my sound was a little less desirable than I would ultimately like but I find the balance of convenience over perfection has dropped me on the Boss side of the fence. So now for pootling about at home or on stage the ME-70 is the thing that I rely on. If I'm looking for something special I don't bother with it and start chaining some individual non-buffered boxes together.
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Post by JAC on Sept 18, 2018 13:06:15 GMT
To turn a Boss (or any buffered bypass pedal) into a true bypass, it is as simple as adding an effects loop pedal. You can pick up true bypass FX Loop pedals for less than 20€, or you can build your own for less than 10€.
This will cure any issues you may have (or feel you have) with a buffered bypass pedal when switched off.
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