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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 15:40:16 GMT
One thing Thomann did not provide with their guitars! THE WARRANTY papers included in the parcel! I could have read it and would know what I can and can't do!
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Post by Djangle on Nov 7, 2018 17:28:25 GMT
Also bear in mind that Thomann employees may read these boards on occasion . However as well as Gear4Music there's also the option of buying gear from DV247. Also sorry for hijacking the thread but just to reply to DefJef......I know the Bandit gets a lot of love nowadays thanks mainly to In the Blues and Dave Simpson's channel but to me it really only starts sounding great around 3 or above which is a bit too loud in my home. Also I know it's shallow but Im not too keen on the aesthetics of the red stripe either. As I play mostly clean with a bit grit and at the most some Pete Townsend "Who's Next" type drive the Bugera seems to fit the bill. Plus it looks the dogs
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Post by kwis on Nov 7, 2018 18:10:36 GMT
Looks nice che,shame about thomann messing you about!when you get time or the inclination,can we have some more pics of the nice stuff,top,fretboard,fret ends ect,and a sound sample wouldn't go a miss. Tia
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Post by Vincent on Nov 7, 2018 18:28:50 GMT
Sorry to hear this @chedapapa it seems things being fit for purpose is a fing of the past. You have photos of it before you removed the neck, you would think thomann would see the guitar was not right! Perhaps they just want faulty stuff returned rather than discounting the buyer for repairs or replacement parts. Which does not really make sense economically? And it makes no sense whatsoever to me either. If I was Thomann I would want every guitar checked properly before it left the facility. This costs time and money and would add to the price of the guitar (although I doubt it would be excessive - 10 euros top?). Returns must be more costly for them. Also, what about the cost of losing goodwill? And many people thinking to buy this model will look for this forum and find this thread before they make their minds up.
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Post by DerAlex on Nov 7, 2018 19:02:36 GMT
I don't understand why dry boards are such a common thing with HBs though. A little oil does work wonders but sometimes only for a few days. This symptom is not only with HB‘s. The 2 Gibson SGs I received recently had also very dry fretboards. To me this is just how it is if you buy online. If you buy local I would expect that they take care of such things and setup & restring the guitar before handing it out to the buyer.
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Post by Vincent on Nov 7, 2018 19:14:07 GMT
People like me are to blame for buying guitars on the Internet. Although it is a long time since I bought a guitar blindly in this way. For new ones I pick a time when I am in a large city and see what they have in person. For the rest of it I keep a close eye on the local online classifieds for interesting used gear.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 21:45:05 GMT
DefJef you were onto to something when you mention some using sand paper to stop the neck from sliding! I think that was the reason factory placed that tiny sand paper in the pocket; to stop the neck from sliding on the lacquered neck pocket (I desire plain wood neck pockets). I have noticed the highe string being very close to the edge of the frets which I haven't noticed before I took the sand paper away. Even when I screw the neck tight, in about 5 minutes it slides back into that position where high e gets close to the egde of the fretboard! Those bloody lacquered neck pockets!!! Any who, I went for the same solution but did a MUCH better job by using a thin sand paper (used for wet sanding) and doubled it so there is sand paper up and down. I even cut the paper so its the same shape as the neck pocket! I placed the neck as desired and tightened the screws. Now the strings look even across the fretbaord. Will see if this holds for long but the sand paper should keep it in place (I hope). If not ... well, I have got a Lemon which I can't even return! Thomann sells me a guitar with issues and when I tell then about it they remove the warranty for it! Handy way of keeping the money and loosing a customer.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 21:55:02 GMT
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Post by kwis on Nov 7, 2018 22:54:48 GMT
Nice,what finish / colour is the neck? and headstock? Frets look tidy....get modding!
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Due to musical differences I've decided I can't work with myself any more.
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Post by DefJef on Nov 7, 2018 23:16:43 GMT
Yes. It's the feature of EACH amp. Sure I do change the treble from 5 to 6 depending which guitar I play (Strat is brighter than my Tele) but Mids and Bass remain the same. Bass 3, Mids 2. Anything over that and it goes into boomy or boxy sound. This is on my Bugera V55. This changes on amps I've played in rehearsal rooms but Bass and Mids interestingly remain in a similar area. Forget about the all Noon and the adjust myth tried and got me nowhere! Start from Zero and seek the Wah sound instead. Start with Bass then Mids then Treble = good to go. This for those seeking Dynamics! If you going full distortion and utter fuzzery maybe this ain't any good. Decided to do a little experiment on the Katana for the 'sweet spot' using my Revelation RJT60 TL as it has such a huge tonal range from full neck humbucker to split bridge humbucker to all those ATN tones on the top chicken head knob. I discovered that my Katana has two 'sweet spots' on the mid control. There is a noticeable wah at around 10 o'clock but another one around 2 o'clock. Both are obvious jumps and I found they both had different uses. Playing clean to edge of breakup I found the 10 o'clock one gave the single coils a great throaty quack, perhaps a little P90ish (well, they do call them Entwistle H90s) then the 2 o'clock did a thinner strattier sound. 10 o'clock was less useful on the humbuckers. 2 o'clock was the best for them. There are so many sounds on this guitar. I think it may be my third go-to after the tele and the Pacifica. It has a much louder and less Fendery sound. I must keep it downstairs and near me for a while to get used to that ATN knob and all that it entails. I don't think it does tele noises and doesn't give that spank...yet. Goodness knows what happens to that sweet spot if I start delving in to the software. Everything goes through my Behringer MIC500 now too as a preamp. Good ongoing experiment.
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Post by LeoThunder on Nov 8, 2018 4:07:40 GMT
It looks beautiful. I really like that fingerboard and hope we'll learn more about that ebony they use. Can anyone recommend some good tonesandpaper?
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Post by LeoThunder on Nov 8, 2018 4:19:07 GMT
With 3 springs the spring tension is minimal. I think having 2 springs and then tightening them more would make things more stable or ? Tension on individual springs will impact the way they vibrate, like guitar strings. 2 springs under higher tension will vibrate at a higher pitch than 3 under a lower pull. The result might seem more stable but it will affect the chiming quality. I suspect 2 springs might become more audible than 3 but that has to be tried out. I solve all this by placing a folded paper towel underneath the springs to mute them. There should be more to this than chiming, though. Vibration of the bridge, caused by the strings, interacts with the springs, building a retro-action system which goes back to the strings. That retro-action will also be affected by the number of springs. I suspect, without any evidence, that the closer the pitch of springs is to that of the strings, or their harmonics, the higher this interaction will be (resonance phenomenon). So changing spring tension should impact the sound of the strings.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 8:18:42 GMT
Nice,what finish / colour is the neck? and headstock? Frets look tidy....get modding! The eck is plain natural satin just like on the cheap ST-20 and the Modern C is as thin as on the ST-20. Cory Mura said its not thinck and its not thin but let me assure you it is thin and FAST! Go any thinner and you will not even touch the back of the neck while playing. The frets are so streight and shiny that the action on high e and B are bellow 2mm (close to 1,5 mm but will need to raise it to 2mm for my vibrato finger style playing) EDIT; the headstock is same as the neck, satin natural look and the front is black. All tuners look in line. The nut is slightly higher on the low E side and then gradually gets good at the high e. This can easily be fixed though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 8:25:29 GMT
I think it was cleaver to send that email to Thomann Denmark as I assume they have not just forwarded my email to the Customer Service but also written a few words like "stop scaring our customers away and fix this issue" as this is the email I've got this morning from the same Customer Service guy that voided my warranty! Before I agree to this I asked if the 30 day return right and the 3 year warranty is included for that new guitar (these guitars have a serial number so they will know I have returned the new one and not the one I have now). It turns out Thomann still has a stellar customer service! Sure I was upset yesterday but today feel MUCH better Will update here once I know more ...
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