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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 6:47:10 GMT
My TE-70BP started giving me buzz on the G and B strings. No matter how I adjust the truss rod or saddles its always there when I pluck the string stronger. If I play very soft no issues.
At first I couldn't see it but then used stronger light and sure thing I can now see those indentations caused by strings. Since g and b are steel they will damage frets much faster than the wound strings.
Re-fretting in Denmark is expensive. Would cost me more than this brand new guitar.
I have no tools for leveling and crowning.
I wish HB start using stainless steel frets.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 8:43:56 GMT
Refretting in DK would be around 260 Euros for dark fretboards and for light Maple could be even more as it will need to be lacquered again! I was very happy that HB Dynamic was with Stainless Steel frets! I hope they come up with those new Telecasters and keep this stainless feature on them. I asked Thomann and they told me that new Teles are to come but they dont know exactly when.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 8:49:46 GMT
And here comes the problem with buying cheap instruments, when they are cheaper than refretting! I sure tcan adjust my guitars but fret leveling and refretting is not an easy task and needs some serious skills and tools! I hate seeing things go to waste but what to do in this case? Buy a new TE-70BP and sell the old one 2nd hand? Or invest into a more expensive Fender Tele and not mind paying 260 Euros for refretting it?
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Post by Vincent on Feb 14, 2019 10:02:38 GMT
The fact that you can buy a replacement guitar for less than the cost of a fret level or a refret done professionally can be viewed as a good thing but obviously it is not so great if you need to do this every, however long it is you have had the guitar.
Fret levelling is not difficult and the tools required to do the work need not be expensive. You have an opportunity to have a go yourself on a guitar that has little resale value. Embrace it. What have you got to lose?
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Post by LeoThunder on Feb 14, 2019 10:26:12 GMT
Localised fret wear is the problem of people who keep playing the same thing over and over. Schönberg invented 12-tone music to solve just that. Get up to date, guys
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Feb 14, 2019 10:44:16 GMT
You can adapt an F clamp into a cheap fret press. Also the parts for a pillar drill are readily available on flee Bay. If you haven't got a pillar drill you can buy pillar drill stand (attachment for an electric drill) for under £20. I haven't costed either way but would think you could get from £40 to £100. The initial cost would still be cheaper than a a luthier refret. The DIY version is obviously dependent on your hand skills and more importantly your confidence. Like most things fear of failure causes people to fret (no pun intended) and make mistakes. But if your positive, take your time you will probably surprise yourself.
Just to add fret wire can be purchased already bent to the desired radius.
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Post by Vincent on Feb 14, 2019 11:32:24 GMT
Localised fret wear is the problem of people who keep playing the same thing over and over. Schönberg invented 12-tone music to solve just that. Get up to date, guys Didn't know he was such a keen guitar player. Some say he was not the first with the twelve notes thing. Possibly something Chuck Berry never lost sleep over. I never did. What about uneven wear on the soles of our shoes? Do you have a remedy for that?
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Feb 14, 2019 11:59:19 GMT
You could refret with just a hammer DefJef but sorry to say this but! Most people don't know how to use a hammer or even hold it correctly. Now a hammer is a simple tool much like a screwdriver is but strangely I've seen people use each for the others intended use. People tap, hit, smash wildly. Others are timid, some strangle the hammer and grip like a vice. Not teaching anyone to suck eggs but simple tools are often about touch like playing a guitar. Not wishing to boast but with a 24oz framing hammer I can drive a 4"(100mm) nail in with 3 blows and not a lot of effort. This is of course is of little use for inserting a fret. I presume the fret press was designed to remove the possibility of damaging frets and to speed up the process. Personally I would think the press version would be better for novices like us. No chance of denting, flatening frets or fretboard. Cost as you rightly point out comes into consideration. However if you take the cheap option it often leads to more cost in the long run if not done correctly. Basically if your not confident you have the skills or know how to attempt it, take it to a luthier. If you deem the refret is more cost than the guitar is worth. Then really buy a new guitar, tbh a £100-£150 guitar is in the throw away bracket. Not being funny but a lot of my tools cost more than that individually, again to be honest when those tools start to fail I replace them.
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Post by DefJef on Feb 14, 2019 12:11:05 GMT
I'm usually pretty practical with tools and can turn my hand to most practical tasks blindwilly3fingers . Things get less comfortable where software is involved . It's often all down to practice and confidence combined with a good degree of forethought and sequencing. I made little Airfix models from a very early age and grew very happy controlling scalpels and solvents and files and emery paper etc. It then really surprised me at how awkward my sons both seemed when first attempting it. Glue everywhere, sliced fingers, paint on clear parts and so on. One son never really seemed to get on top of it, the other improved exponentially but found sequencing a job very hard; seeing the full process before starting and planning ahead. I put it down to his severe dyslexia. He hates a long list of instructions, even spoken ones, but can follow them one at a time brilliantly. Even when laying a dinner table you can't tell him a list of what's needed. Just call them out one at a time and he's very happy to oblige. I'd be very happy to refret with a shrouded hammer and a few tools that I already own.
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Post by LeoThunder on Feb 14, 2019 12:17:37 GMT
Localised fret wear is the problem of people who keep playing the same thing over and over. Schönberg invented 12-tone music to solve just that. Get up to date, guys Didn't know he was such a keen guitar player. Some say he was not the first with the twelve notes thing. Possibly something Chuck Berry never lost sleep over. I never did. What about uneven wear on the soles of our shoes? Do you have a remedy for that? I remember looking at some prelude by Bach with a work colleague and half seriously deducting he had written 11-tone music. Can't remember the exact piece, though, but of course it wasn't going for any of the points that Schönberg made and I do not know of precursors either. Liszt might have been the first to intentionally stray away from tonality, but that's nowhere near Schönberg: The first truly 12-tone based works (after the Walz op. 23 no 5), sounds quite different: I play sitting so soles are not a concern and cushions are cheap.
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Post by LeoThunder on Feb 14, 2019 12:31:23 GMT
My band mate hears emotion in Allan Holdsworth where I hear none, so that is a very personal reaction. I'll bet he wore out his frets very evenly. Thanks for the name, I'll check him out. Never heard of him before. I am not looking for emotion in music. I merely wish to be interested, puzzled, entertained, amused or even excited by the trivialities of rock but I banned Gustav Mahler from my diet for good. I kept Schönberg, Boulez and Xenakis, though. And I absolutely love Brahms for his intricacies or Corelli for the nobility of tone. I am amazed each time I hear a string quartet by Haydn, too.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Feb 14, 2019 12:32:52 GMT
So would I DefJef but for a little expense (£20-£30) I could adapt the tools I already have, and have a very nice fret press. Personally if I need a refret I will take the fret press route. Not that I am not confident I could do it with hand tools, I'm sure I could. For me it's a bit like inserting a heavy duty bolt in a concrete wall. I could use a spanner and a lot of effort or I could use an impact driver. The impact driver wins most times. I will agree finesse with certain things is better done with hand tools. I also built fokker's, spitfire's and all manner of of model kits, mechano, leggo etc as a kid. A mate of mine used to reckon his bird was a model, the standing joke was it was for Airfix!
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