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Post by justlearnin on Oct 6, 2022 4:56:13 GMT
I have been most recently Jonesing for a guitar with P90 pickups... Largely, because I did not have one. And after being made aware that the (Dave Gilmour ? ) Pink Floyd solo in "Another Brick) ... was done with P90's ... albeit in a Les Paul So I started lusting for a guitar with 24" scale length P 90 Pickups Hardtail bridge Unfortunately, there is a guitar that meets all that criteria... Fender's Player Mustang P 90 I say "unfortunately" because Fender has lost its mind, pricing this beast at $799 US . When you consider that it only costs about $500 US a coupla years ago (MIC as opposed to now MIM) it just seems incredibly overpriced. But... I found a used one, that I was able to get at an acceptable price, from a dealer I trust. But even used ,it seems overpriced compared to what Harley Benton will offer SO, My Question: What is the Coolest HB P 90 platform The CST 24 P90 first caught my eye. I know the Les Paul lookin SC 450 P90 is out there, and stumbling around the web, I found a TE (a family I like) TE 90QM, semi hollow w/ P90's NOW If I was to have Thomann do a special for me , it would be the MS 60 (?) Mustang clone With : Caramelized neck / fretboard 24" scale length P90's (alnico V) set up noise cancelling in middle position Stainless frets Tusq Nut Locking tuners Body wood ? Poplar or Alder , in a Honeyburst finish (something Fender does) And still this masterpiece would be less than Fender MIM model ... So which HB to go with ?
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slackey
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Post by slackey on Oct 8, 2022 1:44:17 GMT
i bought a hb te 62db without ever seeing or touching an hb guitar...i've had it for 4 days and have played it for mamy hours...not a single issue...i'm gonna get one of the p90's...i just wish the one with the blackwood fretboard also had the riswell pickups...
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slackey
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Post by slackey on Oct 15, 2022 23:39:53 GMT
jc 60
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Post by frankthetank on Oct 18, 2022 19:58:12 GMT
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Post by justlearnin on Oct 18, 2022 21:41:33 GMT
Kinda, But those are "JazzMaster Pickups" which are from what I understand (and hear) different and not P90's
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Post by jml77 on Oct 19, 2022 12:30:49 GMT
Jazzmaster pickups are slightly different to P90s, they fall into a similar category of pickup though. Wide, long and flat(skinny) bobbins and coil wind, generally a little larger all round than a P90. They also have alnico polepieces like a strat pickup, whereas most P90s have screw polepieces, butting up against 2 bar magnets underneath the coil.
I have a te-90qm the red one with P90s and I like the neck P90 but find the bridge P90 very mid focused, and I think that is due to the high coil wind, at around 10Kohm resistance. The Neck is around 7Kohms. The older te-90s came with wilkinson P90s and I believe they were both (neck and Bridge) around 7K, I have thought about changing the Roswells for Wilkies.
I see that Roswell jazzmaster pickups are around 6.6K for the neck and 11K for the bridge, and at least one youtube reviewer mentions the overly mid focused bridge pickup. That puts me off going for a punt on a JA-60.
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Post by justlearnin on Oct 20, 2022 1:25:34 GMT
Jazzmaster pickups are slightly different to P90s, they fall into a similar category of pickup though. Wide, long and flat(skinny) bobbins and coil wind, generally a little larger all round than a P90. They also have alnico polepieces like a strat pickup, whereas most P90s have screw polepieces, butting up against 2 bar magnets underneath the coil. I have a te-90qm the red one with P90s and I like the neck P90 but find the bridge P90 very mid focused, and I think that is due to the high coil wind, at around 10Kohm resistance. The Neck is around 7Kohms. The older te-90s came with wilkinson P90s and I believe they were both (neck and Bridge) around 7K, I have thought about changing the Roswells for Wilkies. I see that Roswell jazzmaster pickups are around 6.6K for the neck and 11K for the bridge, and at least one youtube reviewer mentions the overly mid focused bridge pickup. That puts me off going for a punt on a JA-60. Yep ... The TE 90QM is high on the acquisition list. but i was hoping that folks with the CST 90 might also chime in . But I think I will follow my own usual advise to guys trying to choose one $2K guitar against another ... and just buy them both ! Because in HB land, I will have 2 killer guitars , for less than the price of a Squier CV !
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Post by frankthetank on Oct 20, 2022 21:13:45 GMT
Though the HB page states them as P90s, i.e. 'With its two single coil Roswell Alnico-5 P90 pickups' I have no idea what they really are.
Also I thought it was a a Jaguar clone (JA) and not a Jazzmaster (JM) clone. I have an authentic JM and the missing tremolo gives it away.
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Post by frankthetank on Oct 21, 2022 18:34:51 GMT
Ah ok. I have a 61 model JM that has quite a few differences, thus the confusions.
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Post by oghkhood on Oct 22, 2022 9:50:31 GMT
Excuse me for the short words, but knowing all the qualities wielded by my CST24-HB, I'd definitely go for a CST24-P90 if I had to chose a solid body P90 platform
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Post by justlearnin on Oct 24, 2022 2:32:16 GMT
Excuse me for the short words, but knowing all the qualities wielded by my CST24-HB, I'd definitely go for a CST24-P90 if I had to chose a solid body P90 platform That one is on The List too... shows currently unavailable but I want one of those too Hey ... in that it is a clone of PRS SE stuff, have you ever tried to put say PRS locking tuners or the SE stock trem bridge on your CST 24 ? I have PRS SE spares lyin' around, and once i score a CST 24 P 90 ... I'll be lookin at maybe putting some PRS parts (assuming they are better) on it. AND if they fit ... There is the Real Danger that John Mann's MannMade USA PRS parts (like their all brass 2040 Trem Bridge ... will fit too. The dang bridge will cost more than the HB guitar. But I put one one a PRS SE ... and Dammmmm... it makes a real improvement ...
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Post by oghkhood on Oct 24, 2022 5:10:46 GMT
I owned several HB guitars - and even more from other brands - but I never felt any tuner set was of unsufficient quality. Eache time I encountered tuning problems on a guitar, the problem came from the nut that needed to be filed ... or even changed. And according to locking tuners : they never solve any tuning precision/stability problems as they work exactly like classic ones do. once again, if you feel like there are tuing problems on your guitar, you rather check the nut and intonation. The bridge on the CST24-HB ( clone of PRS Hollow ) is a wrap around. I always said that it would be an improvement to change it as I think it is giving a colour to the sound, that I do not like .... but it is not that important as I have been owning this guitar for several years, and I havent proceeded to the swap yet. Instead, I changed the electronics for better items, and installed a set of Duesenberg pups .... killer sound now .... despite the bridge
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Post by justlearnin on Oct 25, 2022 2:41:09 GMT
I owned several HB guitars - and even more from other brands - but I never felt any tuner set was of unsufficient quality. Eache time I encountered tuning problems on a guitar, the problem came from the nut that needed to be filed ... or even changed. And according to locking tuners : they never solve any tuning precision/stability problems as they work exactly like classic ones do. once again, if you feel like there are tuing problems on your guitar, you rather check the nut and intonation. The bridge on the CST24-HB ( clone of PRS Hollow ) is a wrap around. I always said that it would be an improvement to change it as I think it is giving a colour to the sound, that I do not like .... but it is not that important as I have been owning this guitar for several years, and I havent proceeded to the swap yet. Instead, I changed the electronics for better items, and installed a set of Duesenberg pups .... killer sound now .... despite the bridge Ah ... Tuners .... Yeah, I agree with what you say for the most part with tuners . The "PRS Crowd" has conniptions when a guitar is not equipped with Pflase III Lockers ! My S2 with conventional vintage tuners work (and sound) just fine. But I have found that with the slotted Kluson type vintage tuner... I have to change them and it has nothing to do with tuning stability. You see, when it comes to strings, , I am a skinny string Communist ! I use .007 gauge strings on anything with a 25" scale length . Love them on my TE 52 & Fender Am Strat Plus Std ('95) Strat. BUT , You will play pure HECK... trying to get a super skinny .007 gauge string, ... onto the slotted type Kluson tuner. I use these tuners on my Squier Bass 6, with its reduced gauge .014 string set ... But decided after much fussing, to install Gotoh vintage type lockers on my TE 52's ...Simply to use my string gauge of choice...
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