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Post by marit on Jul 7, 2017 10:12:33 GMT
marit it can be a bit dangerous to assume that all solid is best. All woods are organic and subject to natural differences, just as you can get good or awful bone. The art of getting a solid wood guitar to sound brilliant is in the selecting of the right woods and the shaping and putting together of the instrument. At the budget end there is little time for this so it is easily possible to get a worse solid wood guitar than a well designed and constructed laminate one. And, as we all know, not even all laminates are the same. Interesting, DefJef. Also, supposedly cedar is a little risky as it is not as strong as spruce. The website mentions the woods as being; - Top: Solid American A-grade cedar - Back and sides: Solid African A-grade mahogany - One-piece neck made of African mahogany - Fretboard: Ovangkol (rather than rosewood, interesting!)
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Post by oghkhood on Jul 8, 2017 6:06:34 GMT
Maybe you should take in account that compared to spruce top, cedar takes longuer to open and reach its specific tone ... and only the time you spend playing it is to take in account
Then, if you like smooth bassy tones, why don't you try mahogany ?
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Post by marit on Jul 8, 2017 9:43:34 GMT
Maybe you should take in account that compared to spruce top, cedar takes longuer to open and reach its specific tone ... and only the time you spend playing it is to take in account Then, if you like smooth bassy tones, why don't you try mahogany ? Yes, I read a lot about cedar vs spruce. Spruce evolves a lot more overtime than cedar does. I am looking at a mahogany back and sides guitar. This one has too so I was interested to know more about it, but the "bad" reviews (compared to the cheaper HB acoustics) and the cedar top make it a no-go.
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Post by oghkhood on Jul 8, 2017 15:50:36 GMT
I was talking about mahoganny top, 000 size with mahoganny are reknown for their very fine picking ability
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Post by Djangle on Jul 8, 2017 20:44:19 GMT
As the owner of a 15 year old Art and Lutherie cedar top dread I take the "opening up" theory with a pinch of salt. I can't say I've heard any noticable difference in tone over the years except when the strings needed new ones it will become a bit brighter. Spruce tops are the ones that are supposed to "open up" over time but if any new guitar doesn't sound great to begin with then I highly doubt the aging process will improve it. Ive compared the sound of my cedar with my brother in law's spruced top Yamahas (an old 70s and new FG ) and we both agreed the cedar sounds sweeter ( less trebly) and slightly mellower but all three having their own characteristics. It's also true that cedar does seem to pick up dings more easily than spruce.
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Post by marit on Jul 8, 2017 22:22:16 GMT
Thanks oghkhood, but I'm looking for a solid spruce top with mahogany back and sides, dreadnought model :-) Djangle: thanks for the info, yes apparently cedar ages less or not at all, whereas spruce does. I read about this and also about it being a more soft wood and more sensitive also to weather changes. I'll pass on the CLD-30 for now!
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Post by kwis on Jul 9, 2017 9:17:02 GMT
I have a cedar topped,mahogany back and sides tangle wood ,it rarely gets used as the tone for me is not as nice as the sikta tops.
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Post by marit on Jul 9, 2017 10:40:49 GMT
kwis: thanks for your input!
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Post by marit on Jul 12, 2017 10:06:34 GMT
So I emailed Thomanns guitar department and asked them about this guitar vs the CLD16SCE. I got a really rapid reply, twice within 30 minutes! So if anyone's got guitar related questions, like what case to use, what certain specs are; don't hesitate to email them because they appear to reply very quickly.
They definitely recommended the CLD-30 to me, "It`s a very light guitar with excellent dynamics and very good sound.", they also say the sound is much more open (it's Thomas Künzel who replied to my email BTW). I also asked about the cutaways and to him that doesn't affect the sound. I asked about the Custom Line Superior, he said this guitar has minor build quality. The CLD-30 doesn't represent a well known guitar model, which is what I thought already.
Anyway, I think I'd still rather get the CLD-16, I read a lot of stuff about solid guitars being much more fragile and some question the need of solid back and sides and say the top is the most important.
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Post by kwis on Jul 12, 2017 10:35:11 GMT
Got to agree about the top being most important,I have a 30 odd year old ovation.that soundo great considering what the back and sides are made of!
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Post by marit on Jul 12, 2017 19:00:02 GMT
kwis: what woods does it use? Was it an inexpensive guitar?
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Post by kwis on Jul 12, 2017 21:24:03 GMT
It's a round back so a resin of some sort. No idea on price,was given it
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