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Post by marit on Oct 23, 2016 0:11:34 GMT
I've recently started changing strings myself (don't laugh!) and since then really got the hang of it, just changed some on an acoustic guitar as well. The pins flew out when tuning up but then putting them back in did the trick and they're now save and secure as far as I can tell and it stays in tune well. I was just reading about winding the strings a few times around the tuning peg, why is this necessary? Do you eventually 'run out' of string when not doing this? I've got in touch with someone at Dean Markley who is the link between them and Neil Young, he told me Neil uses the Signature Series (NickelSteel) strings for his electric guitar, pretty much the cheapest strings from DM. He used to have the Super V strings on his guitars, and before that the SLPs, both are now discontinued (for whatever reason). We play in a D-tuning with the Neil Young Tribute band so I've put some thicker strings on, which gives a nice thick sound. For acoustics, online you can find he uses the D'Angelico 80/20 brass strings, however these are also discontinued (Neil's really an unlucky man, as he likes to very much stick to what he has). He now also uses DM acoustic strings, according to this website: www.deanmarkley.com/EndArtists/NeilYoung.shtml Neil endorses the Vintage Bronze acoustics. However, the DM spokesperson told me he's been switching around a bit and the last sets they sent him were the Blue Steels. So, I got some vintage bronze and some Blue Steels over at Thomann :-) This is a bit of a random story, I'm a bit tired and I'm not sure where I wanted to go with this actually. I guess I'd like an answer to above questions and also if any of you know about Dean Markley's history, and their link with Neil Young.     |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 23:06:23 GMT
From what I understand the extra winding can be for a number of reasons. I tend to use a wrap on my strats and teles which attempts to even out the break angle behind the nut so I will wind down the top E plenty of turns, diminishing as the strings get thicker eventually often winding upwards one turn on the bottom E.
All of them also have one turn above the string (except on the bottom E when it is below the string) followed by all the other turns on the other side of the string. This means that as the string is tightened the strings are locking themselves into position.
I have read advice that the fewer turns the better for tuning stability (but then again there is an awful lot of advice on the internet and it usually pays to go with what works for you).
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Post by marit on Oct 24, 2016 10:14:47 GMT
Well having just swopped the strings I didn't have to tune it much at all. It's mainly the E, A and D strings that only have one turn, the thinner strings do. I just can't get it done without the string going all over the place, I don't have a string winder; that might be a good investment...
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Post by marit on Oct 24, 2016 10:23:14 GMT
BTW I put on the 13-56s Blue Steels from Dean Markley (2037) and they're awful quality. On the e and B stings there's rust or something all over the string, I've obviously contacted Thomann and they've already asked for pictures, so hopefully they'll send a new, good set.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2016 17:52:57 GMT
Less than 2 turns makes my strings come out of the holes in the tuners. Two turn is a must and sometimes I even go 3 turns on the fat strings but not more.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2016 17:54:57 GMT
Look at what Joe Bonamassa's guitar tech does when changing his strings (go to 3 min);
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Post by marit on Oct 25, 2016 9:12:24 GMT
Thanks, Che! I had a video of Fender that suggested the same thing about 1 1/2 tuners, I didn't have a string winder, I was turning like crazy and the string was going all over the place.
Any suggestions for a good string winder? Is it true any string winder has a tool to help take off the bridge pins on an acoustic guitar?
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Post by dodger on Oct 25, 2016 12:07:22 GMT
Thanks, Che! I had a video of Fender that suggested the same thing about 1 1/2 tuners, I didn't have a string winder, I was turning like crazy and the string was going all over the place. Any suggestions for a good string winder? Is it true any string winder has a tool to help take off the bridge pins on an acoustic guitar? Hi Marit I use a £2 plastic string winder from the local guitar shop - probably similar price on Amazon or Thomann - very handy and its does have a bit to scoop out the pins I have a few and they are like this: www.amazon.co.uk/Jim-Dunlop-Guitar-String-Winder/dp/B000EEK4VM/ref=pd_lpo_267_lp_img_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=ZPZHSSFT6VFSFDJXR7ZY |
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Post by marit on Oct 27, 2016 22:04:18 GMT
Thanks dodger, I got one from Boston and as you say does the job well, just changed strings on our beloved CLD-41SE, she's nice and sparkly now with the Dean Markley Blue Steels!
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Post by dodger on Oct 28, 2016 11:49:09 GMT
Thanks dodger, I got one from Boston and as you say does the job well, just changed strings on our beloved CLD-41SE, she's nice and sparkly now with the Dean Markley Blue Steels! I still love mine and just changed the strings on mine although I stuck with the EXP16s as I love the sound - might go different next time! |
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Post by marit on Nov 4, 2016 19:07:33 GMT
Thanks dodger, I got one from Boston and as you say does the job well, just changed strings on our beloved CLD-41SE, she's nice and sparkly now with the Dean Markley Blue Steels! I still love mine and just changed the strings on mine although I stuck with the EXP16s as I love the sound - might go different next time! You should give it a try. These new strings give her a bit more spark rather than the complete warmth she gave. Real nice, bright and loud tones...... |
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Post by marit on Dec 7, 2016 20:42:38 GMT
I've put the Helix 80/20 Dean Markley strings on the HB CLD-41SE, real nice strings to play and very nice sound, too.
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Post by marit on Dec 19, 2016 12:32:42 GMT
Unfortunately the Helix series are discontinued, what a pity!
A person-in-the-know tells me Neil uses the Blue Steel acoustics nowadays, I do like 'em but have had some issues with rust on most of the Blue Steel sets I received. Also, Thomann sell 5 year old sets of these strings and they're covered in rust, mentioned it to them but they're still selling them. Booo, Thomann!
I'm considering GHS strings, I've been told they are made in the same "plant" as the D'Angelico acoustic strings used to be made, and read good things about them.
Anyone have experience with the GHS bright bronze acoustic strings?
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