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Post by karbass on May 4, 2017 16:04:22 GMT
I just ordered a harley benton sc 1000 vw and a set of piramid 7 strings. can I use the 013 .017 .026 .036 .046 .056 and tune in C standard? if I do this will not the guitar die  ? thank you |
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Post by marit on May 4, 2017 16:15:48 GMT
I read an article that said with every tone you go down (E, Eb, D) it's a gauge. I've tried this out, but a .12 in D definitely feels heavier than a .10 in E, so I usually use a gauge .11. A gauge .13 in C tuning should be fine.
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Post by DefJef on May 4, 2017 16:42:36 GMT
I read an article that said with every tone you go down (E, Eb, D) it's a gauge. I've tried this out, but a .12 in D definitely feels heavier than a .10 in E, so I usually use a gauge .11. A gauge .13 in C tuning should be fine. That may well have been what they meant marit. E to Eb is only a semitone so E to D would be a tone and a gauge just like you have discovered. |
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Post by karbass on May 4, 2017 18:37:48 GMT
my issue here is the neck of the guitar, if it will not break or something else. Things sometimes get boring and trying a diferent tuning can help deboring.Im not going to make jazz chords its just make some riffs for fun, if the strings are heavy the better it is.
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Post by Surge on May 4, 2017 21:08:48 GMT
my issue here is the neck of the guitar, if it will not break or something else. Things sometimes get boring and trying a diferent tuning can help deboring.Im not going to make jazz chords its just make some riffs for fun, if the strings are heavy the better it is. I have never known a guitar neck to break under string tension, unless you're using those cables they hold up a suspension bridge with... The guitar you ordered is also pretty much made for that drop tuning heavy strings kind of playing, you'll be fine. |
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Post by karbass on May 4, 2017 21:31:42 GMT
well thank you all for the support  |
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Post by marit on May 5, 2017 10:35:26 GMT
I read an article that said with every tone you go down (E, Eb, D) it's a gauge. I've tried this out, but a .12 in D definitely feels heavier than a .10 in E, so I usually use a gauge .11. A gauge .13 in C tuning should be fine. That may well have been what they meant marit . E to Eb is only a semitone so E to D would be a tone and a gauge just like you have discovered. No, they definitely meant per semitone, I just forgot the word. Here's the article: www.seymourduncan.com/blog/the-players-room/down-but-not-out-drop-tuning-like-a-pro |
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Post by marit on May 5, 2017 11:13:17 GMT
That clarifies that marit . Thanks. I was just thinking though. A Fender scale length already has more tension than a Gibson one so there may be a greater issue on dropped tunings and string floppiness with the shorter scale length. Plus, I've noticed that manufacturers seem to use the longer scale length as their tension guide, even further screwing everything up for shorter scale players. I'm getting a pitch shifter pedal! Hmmm yes that is something to take into consideration. I do have that TE-52, those have 9-42 gauges to compensate for the higher tension? They feel very thin to me but it is damn easy to play, I was considering putting 11-52's on it and then tune it to D, you think that would be too much? |
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Post by marit on May 5, 2017 11:40:04 GMT
I don't think 11-52s would be too much but, then again, I don't play 9s! I'll give it a go then! I don't either but these come stock with 9s and the intonation was good, so didn't want to mess that up and will be using it for D tuning only anyway. |
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Post by vostok on May 5, 2017 19:05:39 GMT
Don't worry, your guitar can absolutely handle 13-56 in C standard. I have used 13-64 for Drop A# on a 25.5inch scale length without any problem. Just make sure you can move the 6th string saddle further enough form the nut to be able to get a proper intonation. One more thing I would say is that using a .026 as a 3rd is a huge difference in feel to the .017 on the 2nd string doing bends or vibratos. I'm not saying it won't suit you, of course, just that the unbalanced tension between the strings may feel awkward or even a little annoying. If you don't mind having slightly less tension on the higher strings, this set might work for you: linkI've used it and find it comfortable, that's all I can say... |
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Post by karbass on May 26, 2017 19:49:28 GMT
and the guitar arrives, and I now tuned in open g and I just play pleasent  chords. its always the same, I buy a guitar to do some kind of experience and when it arrives I do something different.  |
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Post by marit on May 27, 2017 19:31:12 GMT
and the guitar arrives, and I now tuned in open g and I just play pleasent chords. its always the same, I buy a guitar to do some kind of experience and when it arrives I do something different. How's the guitar? Perhaps do a seperate thread on it with pics etc! Is that higher than E or lower? You can go both ways on that one  |
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Post by karbass on Jun 11, 2017 19:28:43 GMT
Ive tuned it to ggdgbd. the lower strings are the same note. and now Im using only 4 strings in eadg and just jam some rock and metal. jam what ever comes to my head. in the same order came a emg h4 and i put it as the bridge pick up on a jackson performer and i use only 3 strings in dad tuning. in my pb50 Im now using 2 string tuned da in the middle of the neck. Its more easy to jam if we have less notes to use. I change my playing the way the wind goes.  |
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