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Post by simontemplar on Mar 11, 2020 14:39:20 GMT
I never understood wasting the energy just to be negative. I just can't be bothered to act like that. I can't be bothered discussing other people on a public forum. An even worst waste of time. I'm here to discuss Harley Benton guitars and related subjects. I won't give a toss what John1234 thinks of Jim5678. To be fair, Jim5678 was talking some trash. I mean I'm just saying!
I remember when I was in high school, my Spanish teacher had a sign in her classroom that said:
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
What I couldn't get my head round was that wasn't the sign essentially an act of talking about other people??
All goofing aside, do you happen to know where I might find some info on setting the intonation on a wraparound bridge? First time trying to do it, and I hate setting the intonation anyway, so I'm sure I'm being a giant baby about it.
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Post by simontemplar on Mar 11, 2020 15:21:14 GMT
We had that cyclical discussion a few months back simontemplar . The 'idea' that great people talk about ideas, that this 'idea' is already talking about other people and so on. And who's idea was it to to invent the epigram in the first place? You can be sure that whenever people invent a denigrating aphorism they were usually thinking of putting themselves on the right side of it! Sometimes it's fun to go down the rabbit hole like that, but your reasoning is spot on. And I agree. I think they're missing out. I've learnt some of the best stuff by being on the wrong side of something and then having to fess up and fix it.
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Post by LeoThunder on Mar 11, 2020 15:21:21 GMT
I can't be bothered discussing other people on a public forum. An even worst waste of time. I'm here to discuss Harley Benton guitars and related subjects. I won't give a toss what John1234 thinks of Jim5678. To be fair, Jim5678 was talking some trash. I mean I'm just saying!
I remember when I was in high school, my Spanish teacher had a sign in her classroom that said:
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
What I couldn't get my head round was that wasn't the sign essentially an act of talking about other people??
All goofing aside, do you happen to know where I might find some info on setting the intonation on a wraparound bridge? First time trying to do it, and I hate setting the intonation anyway, so I'm sure I'm being a giant baby about it.
The sign was not talking about John, Jim or Sarah. That's what "talking about other people" means. "Sarah is always so mean about John, what do you think Jim would say about it?" I needed no information about my wraparound bridge. What's the problem? You set the high E, then the low E, then fiddle around with the B & G if you have an adjustment possibility. It's obvious because there's no other alternative, really.
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Post by simontemplar on Mar 11, 2020 15:24:33 GMT
To be fair, Jim5678 was talking some trash. I mean I'm just saying!
I remember when I was in high school, my Spanish teacher had a sign in her classroom that said:
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
What I couldn't get my head round was that wasn't the sign essentially an act of talking about other people??
All goofing aside, do you happen to know where I might find some info on setting the intonation on a wraparound bridge? First time trying to do it, and I hate setting the intonation anyway, so I'm sure I'm being a giant baby about it.
The sign was not talking about John, Jim or Sarah. That's what "talking about other people" means. "Sarah is always so mean about John, what do you think Jim would say about it?" I needed no informartion about my wraparound bridge. What's the problem? You set the high E, then the low E, then fiddle around with the B & G if you have an adjustment possibility. It's obvious because there's no other alternative, really. Sarah always is mean. I've had enough of her nonsense!
Anyway, yeah I felt stupid even writing that post because that bridge is super simple looking. My issue is that they G is close but not bang on, and the saddle is flush with the bottom of the bridge, so I can't lengthen the string any longer. There are 2 bigger screws that seem to control the whole apparatus, but I wasn't sure how to deal with those. My paranoia is stripping screws.
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Post by LeoThunder on Mar 11, 2020 15:31:26 GMT
Anyway, yeah I felt stupid even writing that post because that bridge is super simple looking. My issue is that they G is close but not bang on, and the saddle is flush with the bottom of the bridge, so I can't lengthen the string any longer. There are 2 bigger screws that seem to control the whole apparatus, but I wasn't sure how to deal with those. My paranoia is stripping screws. Screws are meant to be used. Just be gentle. I had to take mine quite far on the low E side.
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Post by JAC on Mar 12, 2020 13:27:48 GMT
Post deleted and member banned. I thought you were banned!? Just for the record, this member was issued with a temporary ban, check the rules of the forum for an explanation. He didn't learn so he is now permanently banned. Again, thank you to those who reported the post.
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Post by rogwinsound on Mar 14, 2020 23:57:23 GMT
Hey Guys / Gals, new to this forum. Cannot believe you are talking about exactly what Im having a problem with. I was looking to buy an SC Custom, VB..... or the TE40......but after watching TOO MANY Utube videos, I decided to go with the Les Paul "SC" and I loved the matte black and the recessed knob esthetics. I have a couple strats, so now that I'm getting pretty well on in years, I decided to buy ONE MORE last guitar. When I looked at the Thomann Web page for the SC Custom, it CLEARLY had the recessed knobs, as a matter of fact ALL of the other SC's still do, and I am learning from you guys that it is because they were made it Viet Nam. Viet Nam also seems to have a more ebony toned fretboard, and yes... the Grovers. SO.... I buy one.....it is now stuck in Frankfurt and not moving because of the virus alert. I guess a day or so after the SC became available again, I didnt realize it, until reading your stuff, they changed the pictures of thumbnails on the SC Custom VB Page. Now if you zoom in, you will see there ARE NO recessed knobs. ( that means....Made in China! I just learned from you guys) And the more I read here, and watch that dudes video,there are 2 HB SC Custom VBs. Chinese and VietNamese. I am positive I'm getting a Chinese one, which is not the body style I ordered. Meanwhile the guitar is stuck in shipping in Germany, their main factory is closed indefinitely , due to virus. No ones even answering my customer services messages. They are shut down.
Not Happy here. They wont even know if they sent me a Chinese or a VNam,cuz... someone just grabbed a box off a warehouse shelf. Anybody here has anything to say, please go for it. I am in my late 60's and was a profession Progressive/ Fusion rock guy, bassist, guitarist, for over 50 years and now church organist in my church! Can I tell Thomann I want aVintage Black from VietNam?? Or will they tell me they have no control? THANK YOU ALL /Peace.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Mar 15, 2020 0:18:25 GMT
You won't get a reply from Thomann over the weekend. They seem to be strictly Mon to Fri from my dealings with them. They will get back to you but it may not be right away.
I don't know if the people who deal with customer service will be able to supply the information you require? A lot of HB guitars do not have the country of manufacture on them.
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Post by rogwinsound on Mar 15, 2020 0:31:45 GMT
Thank You Mr Benton! Though they did post they were shutting down Indefinitly......
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Mar 15, 2020 1:01:41 GMT
I'm not Mr Benton far from it. If they have posted they have shut down then I really don't know what you can do?
I'm in the UK and the virus problem is changing almost hourly. I don't know the situation in Germany but from what I read and see on TV central Europe is in trouble.
Unfortunately its going to get worse before it gets better. A cliche I know but it is what it is. All you can really do is wait I know it's frustrating but nothing you can do about it at the moment. Sorry but that's all I can say.
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Post by rogwinsound on Mar 15, 2020 1:34:29 GMT
Oh, I see , your Blind Willy , its says Mr Benton under that.
Yeah, another old saying.. Worrying never changes anything.
Thanks for the reply, no... I'm pretty much in Harley Benton purgatory right now.
A "Guitar" is not important with the virus going about....though over here ( NY) its a bit hyped out of proportion.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Mar 15, 2020 1:53:06 GMT
It's just a tag that you get after a certain amount of posts. It's a bit of 'shutting the gate after the horse has bolted' over here. Bit late now to start taking preventative measures after the virus has spread. But what do I know 🤫
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Post by LeoThunder on Mar 15, 2020 4:22:16 GMT
I guess a day or so after the SC became available again, I didnt realize it, until reading your stuff, they changed the pictures of thumbnails on the SC Custom VB Page. Now if you zoom in, you will see there ARE NO recessed knobs. ( that means....Made in China! I just learned from you guys) No, it doesn't mean that. The Chinese batch coming with non-recessed knobs and the wrong Floyd Rose was some time ago and proper, description conform guitars were reviewed on Youtube later, showing it was a temporary issue that was fixed. It also showed that such issues can go straight out to customers before returns ring an alarm bell. A Youtube search sorted by upload date is a practical way of following the evolution of models, with the occasional glitch of someone making a video on an older guitar he just got 2nd hand. The new pictures on the web site, however, announce that new guitars will have non recessed knobs, wherever they were made. Earlier this year, someone here posted that he bought a B-650 bass expecting monorail saddles in the bridge and got the new, massive, one piece thing instead. The website now shows the new one-piece bridge but it did not when he made the purchase and this is a situation I have seen repeatedly. Products change earlier than their description, both are not always precisely synchronised. Here's a link to the thread about it. Maybe synchronisation was good this time and you got the last one with recessed knobs. I hope I can go shopping next week, I don't really want to eat my guitars
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Post by LeoThunder on Mar 15, 2020 7:07:43 GMT
I guess a day or so after the SC became available again, I didnt realize it, until reading your stuff, they changed the pictures of thumbnails on the SC Custom VB Page. Now if you zoom in, you will see there ARE NO recessed knobs. ( that means....Made in China! I just learned from you guys) No, it doesn't mean that. This video from 26.02.2020, however, confirms that the recent SC-Custom comes with non-recessed knobs and is made in China, as can be seen at 0:42 when we get a close up view of the back of the headstock: The Harley Benton SC-Custom Lemon Flame pictures have not yet beem updated on the Thomann site and show recessed knobs.
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