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Post by roberto on Jul 21, 2018 13:27:14 GMT
I bought my first Harley Benton:HB Sc Custom Honey Flame.
I was very happy to play it, just out of the box, with my preamp AMT SS 20 (a killer preamp with active EQ).
The HB is very playable and the Roswell pick-ups seem to me working nice.
I need some time to test the guitar also with my Peavey classic 30, but my first impression is very very good. I'm starting to consider this HB better than my two Fender Strato U.S.A.(1983)and a Ibanez As 103, in terms of a "good guitar just out of the box".
The specs of the SC Honey Flame are wrong for the pick-ups that are Roswell instead of wilkinson as stated on Thomann's site, but they are good (maybe better than Wilkinson but i don't know the sound of the Wilkilson). The guitar are made in Vietnam: good production, i think! The pick-up-ups are Split Coil (but Thomann's site don't say nothing about this feature).
This possibility to split the Humbuckers in single coil it's a chance for tonal changes of the guitar (but you need to boost the guitar signal in this mode with a booster for the difference of volume).
The freatboard it's very good: the radius of 14" it's for my medium hands very confortable and playable as my acoustic Yahama APX 700 (same radius of the HB) that I love for playability.
Any other consideration and question is welcome....
Roberto
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2018 20:23:36 GMT
Congrats on your new toy Im sure some of our members will suggest adding 50's wiring to this guitar. I can't suggest much as Im not a humbucker type, Im more into real single coils like Strat, Tele, P90's.
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Post by roberto on Jul 21, 2018 20:54:58 GMT
Thank you,I want to buy soon an HB with single coil, maybe you Will help me in future days.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Jul 21, 2018 22:57:15 GMT
Been looking at this guitar or the 550 faded tobacco. I do like the look of honey flame. Glad you are happy with it 😀
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Post by roberto on Jul 22, 2018 7:33:54 GMT
Grazie amico, hoping you Will find the best and be glad with it😃
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Post by roberto on Sept 4, 2018 17:49:36 GMT
I've recorded today an homedemo with the help of a blues backing track.
The guitar is the Harley Benton SC Custom and the ampli is the Hotone nano legacy Siva Boogie (preamp of Hotone Siva through the FX loop send in the soundcard and IR cabinet Brohim.
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Post by DerAlex on Sept 5, 2018 6:59:08 GMT
Congrats on your new toy Im sure some of our members will suggest adding 50's wiring to this guitar. I can't suggest much as Im not a humbucker type, Im more into real single coils like Strat, Tele, P90's. Ok, here I am. If you like the guitar, change pots/electronics to decent pots/caps (e.g. Alpha pots and Mustard cap 22nf) and change to 50s wiring. Cheap mod to great tone with humbuckers and P90s. Rock on.
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Post by roberto on Sept 5, 2018 7:33:18 GMT
DerAlex thanks for suggestion maybe i will do this upgrade but I'm conscious that my ears could not be so able to distinguish the differences in the sound between two different capacitors.
Please do you know if there are videos or audioclips with the sound of HB SC custom before and after the 50s wiring?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 14:33:15 GMT
If you use Tone Knob a lot then 50's wiring is not for you. If you use Tone on full on and work the Volume knob then 50's wiring is for you. I work the tone knob hence stay away from 50's.
But I love having the option of in Series and in Parallel between the neck and bridge pickups. Very useful options.
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Post by roberto on Sept 5, 2018 17:34:34 GMT
CheDapapa your information about 50's wiring may be helpfull for me. I use the tone knobs of my guitar sometime but must of time I use tone on full on. I will get in the next future more informations about this argument ... for now thank you.
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Post by roberto on Sept 6, 2018 16:07:28 GMT
I've recorded a demo track with the same recording setting (for example the same IR cabinet) of the video above with the HB SC Custom.
But the guitar now is the Epiphone AS 103 with Ibanez Super 58 Custom humbuckers and the preamp is the AMT SS 20 (a very good preamp from Russia).
Neck humbucker in the previous video with the HB and neck humbucker in this video with the Ibanez.
I'm starting to consider that the Roswell humbucker are nice pick-ups: the cost of the gears of the previous video is about 300 Euro (guitar and preamp)while the cost of this one with the Ibanez and AMT preamp is 1000 Euro ...
Here the video with Ibanez
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Post by DerAlex on Sept 6, 2018 16:26:17 GMT
DerAlex thanks for suggestion maybe i will do this upgrade but I'm conscious that my ears could not be so able to distinguish the differences in the sound between two different capacitors. Please do you know if there are videos or audioclips with the sound of HB SC custom before and after the 50s wiring? I don‘t know of any video comparing it with a SC custom. Good opportunity for you. IMHO it is a very worthwhile upgrade to change pots and caps and then switching between 50s and modern wiring is easily done. I also don‘t agree that 50s wiring does not work well when using tone knob. But everyone has different taste. I found this when quickly searching YT but I admit it is not the best example to use just a fingerpicking riff. But it shows nicely that with 50s wiring it cleans up much better and I also prefer the tone when using the tone knob:
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Post by roberto on Sept 6, 2018 16:38:51 GMT
DerAlex thanks for the video: the 50's wiring is an interesting upgrading and it's good for me to know about it and eventually easily done in one of my humbucker guitars
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Post by LeoThunder on Sept 6, 2018 17:18:29 GMT
Someone in the comments of the video said that adding a treble bleed to the modern wiring fixes its disadvantages. To me, what it says is that Gibson are selling crap that buyers have to fix. I would begrudgingly accept this from a cheap Harley Benton, but only a real cheap one, like those "Student" models for 89€.
I feel the same about Fender's bridge PU without a tone control on Strat's.
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Post by roberto on Sept 6, 2018 17:47:44 GMT
Someone in the comments of the video said that adding a treble bleed to the modern wiring fixes its disadvantages. It's common to play, just with a "stock guitar", with softer and poorer sound of high frequencies that is obtained by lowering the volume. That's can be useful for the rhythm parts. The accompaniments can be played with a moderate volume and when it's solo time you can open the whole potentiometer to go out in the solo, gaining thrust and presence ... this in live situation. In home recording studio is more easily to achieve the sound you need.
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