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Post by bucketheadfan9 on Sept 28, 2018 2:08:37 GMT
Hello everyone,
Thanks for this awesome forum, and i do apologize if i am posting this in the wrong place. I recently purchased a Custom Line Nashville Steel Guitar which i love. It has that Taylor T5 sound and i really enjoy playing it. The only problem I do have, however, is that the guitar does seem to go out of tune fairly easy. So I would really like to purchase a set of upgraded tuners, either locking or unlocking.
I ordered a set of locking grover mini 3X3 tuners and although the whole size wasn't an issue, the headstock is to thick for the tuners to be inserted and have sufficient room for the string hole to thread properly. To my knowledge, Thomann doesn't offer a set of locking 3X3 tuners on its website like they do for strat type guitars, so I was wondering if anyone might have any ideas on a set of tuners (locking or non locking) that are quality and that will fit this guitar. The headstock is 5/8 inches thick.
Thanks for your time and have a good day CS
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freeman
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Post by freeman on Sept 28, 2018 9:06:12 GMT
Have you checked the nut first? I read the nut is made of Walnut. Maybe a bone nut would be better. Maybe. Maybe try some vaseline in the nut slots. Also check the saddle. Maybe a drop of vaseline or some graphite on there too. A lot of the time it's not the tuners. A friend of mine changed the tuners twice on his guitar only to find it was the badly cut plastic nut all along. Cheers
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DefJef
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Post by DefJef on Sept 28, 2018 9:16:47 GMT
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Post by LeoThunder on Sept 28, 2018 10:50:15 GMT
That's right. Tuners can be more or less smooth, more or less accurate but they are usually not the moving part in the system. The strings are and get stuck in the nut or slip around the posts.
Here's a nice trick to lock them on themselves with just two turns around the post (at 6'41). I find it's easier to do than the PRS style locking trick (shown at 7'35 in the same video):
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Post by salteedog on Sept 28, 2018 12:23:16 GMT
Hmm...I've watched that a couple of times and I'm not sure what he is doing. I've to change strings on a guitar later so I might give it a go.
BTW - I'm also a believer in the view that tuners are rarely a problem. Well cut nut, lubricated nut and saddle slots, proper winding technique, and proper string stretching are the key to tuning stability.
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Post by Vincent on Sept 28, 2018 13:22:31 GMT
I have mostly been using the one wrap above procedure for a long time now but I cannot say that there is any improvement over the all wraps below method. In fact I would go so far as to say there is none. I've tried all ways. So long as I don't end up with a birds-nest on the headstock I am happy.
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Post by MartinB on Sept 28, 2018 13:45:42 GMT
I do 1-2 wraps below one above.
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Post by bucketheadfan9 on Sept 28, 2018 13:45:52 GMT
Thanks for the tips guys. I will double check the nut and reapply some nut sauce and see what i can get. Really appreciate your time and advice CS
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Post by LeoThunder on Sept 28, 2018 15:09:24 GMT
So long as I don't end up with a birds-nest on the headstock I am happy. I like to reuse strings, or at least I want to be able to remove them and put them back on. When I opened my Strat' to modify the wiring, and I did it three times in the last 3 weeks, I put back the old strings 3 times. I'll go for the method that seems the least destructive and I'll keep some extra length. I put my new tapewounds on my Ibanez yesterday then removed them and put them on the Squier. I didn't want to shorten them in any way because I knew they would have to reach varying distances depending on the headstock they come to and I haven't yet decided to keep the Jazz Bass. I hope I managed to install them in a sustainable way…
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Post by LeoThunder on Sept 28, 2018 16:00:05 GMT
There is a point in desiring a certain regularity and the reason it didn't bother me when I did it is that I didn't have that angle to see it. Now I feel like fixing it but I know it's not causing any issue, so I won't. Doing this is the point of string trees, after all. My Wild Strat' looks the same, except it has staggered tuners instead: The G string is right on the side, not underneath the edge of that string arch, portal or Roman triumph thingy. I would go play some Roman music now if I only had the faintest idea what it sounded like. I must have some very old Roman chant from before the Gregorian switch somewhere. Then some even older Byzantine music…
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