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Post by MartinB on Jan 31, 2019 18:40:57 GMT
Just a little 2ps worth
The drive channel of my Laney is different in sound and character to my pedal (Boss BD-2), but not significantly imo.
The looper function on my TC electronic delay/looper was identical in sound to my ears.
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Post by MartinB on Jan 31, 2019 20:06:50 GMT
I guess the blues driver is a matter of taste, I keep the gain quite low but like the sound.
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Post by salteedog on Jan 31, 2019 20:24:34 GMT
So...clean channel which stays clean when turned up sounds like a good thing as it means you've got a lot of headroom there. Although I understand it's not great when you are looking for crunchiness. It does suggest however that it should play nice with pedals.
Unfortunately though you already have a nice clean amp that does the pedal thing fine. What you are looking for is well behaved power amp distortion I suppose.
Which isn't really telling you anything you don't already know.
This video doesn't really teach anything new but I do like the way he uses a graphical overlay to explain tube amp gain stages
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 20:45:45 GMT
It's the more sustained distortion that I'm not getting. The notion of 'singing leads' seems to be way out of the picture. It's pedal test weekend coming up! Hm, in that case you should try my CKK Gears Compressor for exactly that stuff, and even more in case you also need some snappy attack (Attack knob for some mean Country Tele soloing). Love this Compressor! What you need IS sustained note and yet with all that tubey sag and sizzle. Compressor my friend, a good one. Most of the tested comps are expensive and the only one I could find that is affordable and also based on Ross was this CKK Gears. Very happy with it. Or maybe you need 2 OD pedals stacked or maybe a Boosted OD pedal or ... good luck
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 20:57:46 GMT
Now that we are talking all this "singing leads" stuff maybe , just maybe that bloody Bugera G20 would be perfect for you?! Even Mesa Boogie would suit you actually. Im not joking. These amps can give you that "singing leads" for sure.
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Post by DefJef on Jan 31, 2019 21:36:23 GMT
D'you know what, you may be right Che. I always said I needed you as my tonal guru. You've checked everything out. I should just put a list together of tonal needs and get you to put the thing together . Just took a listen to the G20 an the cleans sounded great whilst there was much more complex drive available on that channel too. It's not such a looker (so it might match my Champ better too!). I'll do a bit more digging on this one. If it does clean, some edge of breakup AND some proper drive too it could be the thing. I like the fact that the clean channel seems to have it's own tone control. Wonder how that works? And a morphy thing between British and American sound (I thought Blackstar had patented that ISF thing!). Seems to be a shade smaller and lighter too. Tick, tick. They seem to be far less promoted than the V series amps for some reason, yet they are similarly priced.
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Post by MartinB on Jan 31, 2019 21:50:17 GMT
I personally like using either of my fuzz pedals for a “lead” tone.
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Post by DefJef on Jan 31, 2019 22:09:37 GMT
Yep, I'll be trying the fuzz out at the weekend MartinB . I couldn't resist trying the Joyo American Sound into front end and it was disastrously nasty. Despite all of those knobs I just couldn't get anything other than a rather solid state sounding overdrive + hiss. Tried it with a battery and no better. The best sound that pedal would make was when it was set to sound exactly the same as the overdrive channel on the amp! And that's a waste of time. There was no sense of one overdrive stacking onto another. Could try it in the effects loop. I am trying, I really am, to make this amp work for me. Of course there's always the 'swap the tubes for JJs' clan. Yeah, maybe, but I'd have to be convinced it was worth it and I'm not yet. And that G20 may not be ideal either. It seems the three band eq stack is for the distortion channel only. That clean channel tone knob is not an extra presence thing, it's ALL you get. And there's no mention of that fact in any manual details. So this V22 may be my best bet if pedals love it. I can't do with it's drive channel alone. Maybe I should get some of these? Seem like a bargain price!
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Post by Djangle on Jan 31, 2019 22:42:16 GMT
I know you're searching for the sound on the Bugera but this guy goes through his tone tips/amp settings for singing leads on the Katana 100 which you may get out of the 50 version you have, if you like them that is. The other video does a comparison with the Marshall tube amp he just purchased. FwIw I think the Katana does an admirable job compared to the Marshall. His guitar face is cracks me up tho.
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Post by salteedog on Jan 31, 2019 23:35:41 GMT
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