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Post by gortsgear on May 14, 2019 18:43:54 GMT
Re HB TE-20 neck profile...HB states Modern C...is that a thin neck, maybe 20-22mm/7/8"? Weights online look like 3.25kg/7lb. The Sunburst in the Thomann pics looks more like Tobacco Burst without much yellow or red. Anyone have one of these Vietnam products from 2019 who can comment and include pics? Cheers! No, YOU Rock!!!
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Post by gortsgear on May 29, 2019 0:12:32 GMT
Reply to my own post. Just received a black TE-20 and took some measurements with a caliper. Thomann says the neck is a Modern C. It's better described as a Louisville Slugger! All comparisons are to my Squier Affinity maple neck...HB 41.4mm wide at the nut and 20mm thick at the 1st fret. The Squier neck is 40.2mm wide and 18mm thick at the first fret. Body thickness of the TE is 42.3mm, the Squier is 40mm. I wish Thomann would provide accurate measurements on all their descriptions. And just for the record, I used the fret ends to grate cheese for my spaghetti. Lowered the action from 3.2mm to 1.6. In Imperial, thats 8/64 to 4/64. The neck was straight. The intonation was sharp on the A-E saddle. I weighed the guitar (it's accurate to the cent) and it came in at 3.8kg. I must have received Noah's anchor. It feels heavy, which is disappointing. My Squier is 3.2kg, the very weight reported on this HB Club page for the TE-20.
One assumes this is a guitar for a beginner. It's too thick, too heavy and requires some luthier knowledge to make it play well. Buy a Squier Bullet for $129 at MF or GC. I paid $74USD + $33 shipping, which took 11 days over Memorial Day weekend. I give customer service 5 stars, the guitar gets a 3. Keep On Rockin'!
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Post by LeoThunder on May 29, 2019 4:43:28 GMT
20 mm at 1st fret is fitting for "modern C". This is on the thin side. My ST-62 has 23 mm, my SC-450 Plus has 21.7. My Ibanez S and SA go from 19 to 20. The body of my Strat's go from 43 to 44.5 mm, so that one is thin too. Squier Affinity Strat's are a known exception.
Intonation always goes sharp after lowering the action, this is basic geometry. 3.2 mm was a joke, though.
3.8 Kg seems reasonable for a Telecaster shape. They have a bulky, edgy body without contours and are therefore heavier than Strat's. My ST-62 weighs 3.6 Kg and it's basswood (lighter wood). For consistently lighter guitars, go with Ibanez S or SA. Mine are 2.5 (hard tail S) and 2.8 Kg (SA). The one with 3 pick-ups and a heavy ZR bridge is 3.5 Kg.
"One assumes this is a guitar for a beginner." One is wrong to assume anything of the sort. This is a cheap guitar. All guitars require setting-up. No one is paid to do an optimised set-up on a cheap one. Setting up a guitar is like tuning it. Beginners should learn to do it, unless they also want to pay a luthier for tuning their instrument.
I also wish dimensions were indicated on the product descriptions but that's what we get for the price. Ibanez does this for neck thickness but no one indicates weights because it is too variable.
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Post by ttmax on Jun 6, 2019 16:24:16 GMT
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Post by ttmax on Jun 6, 2019 16:31:10 GMT
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Post by LeoThunder on Jun 7, 2019 5:05:06 GMT
My ST-62's and my SC-450 Plus have the same weight as the above, some 3.6 and 4.3 Kg (from a very approximative scale). They seem to be consistent. I find strange that the Fender Strat' is lighter than the ST-62. I know the HB neck is thicker but the body is basswood and the vibrato block is small.
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