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Post by tojla on Mar 26, 2023 10:40:36 GMT
Main question. How do they sounds? Do you feel any difference?
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filip
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Post by filip on Mar 26, 2023 22:03:16 GMT
The guitar is brand new, so I didn't play her in a band rehearsal context yet. But to my ears (at living room volume), the bridge pickup sounds louder and way more 'agressive'
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gilmourd
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Post by gilmourd on Mar 27, 2023 2:21:19 GMT
When you measured them were they still connected to the rest of the circuit? That will affect your readings if so.
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filip
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Post by filip on Mar 27, 2023 7:34:20 GMT
Yes, I measured the resistance while they were in the circuit. The neck pickup value is close to the spec (- 3%). Only the bridge pickup deviates much more (14 % higher than the spec). Are there other forum members who have already measured this?
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filip
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Post by filip on Mar 29, 2023 2:14:35 GMT
Has anyone else measured the output of their TE-62 ?
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Post by kend on Mar 29, 2023 18:10:02 GMT
Bridge - 6.52 Neck - 5.72 Measured using DVM on a short patch cable.
As an aside, these measurements were done with the volume and tone pots reduced to their lowest resistances (wide open).
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filip
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Post by filip on Mar 29, 2023 19:33:27 GMT
When I see the output values of you guys, it makes me suspect that something is different/wrong with my bridge pickup. It may also explain the fact that the bridge pickup sounds a lot louder than the neck pickup. Not a little bit, but a huge lot louder ! Even when I raise the neck pickup and lower the bridge pickup, I can't get them in balance.
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gilmourd
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Post by gilmourd on Mar 29, 2023 22:29:37 GMT
When I see the output values of you guys, it makes me suspect that something is different/wrong with my bridge pickup. It may also explain the fact that the bridge pickup sounds a lot louder than the neck pickup. Not a little bit, but a huge lot louder ! Even when I raise the neck pickup and lower the bridge pickup, I can't get them in balance. Like I said above, measuring a pickup while it's still connected to the rest of the circuit will give you false readings since it's including other components in that reading. To get a proper reading the pickup should be disconnected from the rest of the circuit. Also, what are the pickup heights like? Sounds like your bridge pickup is high and/or your neck pickup is low.
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filip
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Post by filip on Mar 30, 2023 2:07:43 GMT
When I see the output values of you guys, it makes me suspect that something is different/wrong with my bridge pickup. It may also explain the fact that the bridge pickup sounds a lot louder than the neck pickup. Not a little bit, but a huge lot louder ! Even when I raise the neck pickup and lower the bridge pickup, I can't get them in balance. Like I said above, measuring a pickup while it's still connected to the rest of the circuit will give you false readings since it's including other components in that reading. To get a proper reading the pickup should be disconnected from the rest of the circuit. Also, what are the pickup heights like? Sounds like your bridge pickup is high and/or your neck pickup is low. in terms of pickup height. I lowered the bridge pickup significantly and raised the neck pickup. I ' m aware that measuring the output values with the pickups in the circuit is less accurate. But I assume 'Kend' and 'thunderbird' also measured while in circuit.
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thunderbird
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Post by thunderbird on Mar 30, 2023 6:16:16 GMT
Like I said above, measuring a pickup while it's still connected to the rest of the circuit will give you false readings since it's including other components in that reading. To get a proper reading the pickup should be disconnected from the rest of the circuit. Also, what are the pickup heights like? Sounds like your bridge pickup is high and/or your neck pickup is low. in terms of pickup height. I lowered the bridge pickup significantly and raised the neck pickup. I ' m aware that measuring the output values with the pickups in the circuit is less accurate. But I assume 'Kend' and 'thunderbird' also measured while in circuit. You assumed correctly. I did it with a long lead also, made barely any difference.
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filip
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Post by filip on Mar 30, 2023 6:38:16 GMT
In the meantime I also measured the pickup outside the circuit, which yields a result of 7.65K (so even higher).
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gilmourd
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Post by gilmourd on Mar 31, 2023 13:50:20 GMT
In the meantime I also measured the pickup outside the circuit, which yields a result of 7.65K (so even higher). Odd... And that's even the one with the correct part number. But at least now we're playing with the correct data. Disregarding the specs published on Roswell's site, though, a Tele bridge pickup being that much hotter than a Tele neck pickup really isn't that unheard of. For instance, Fender's own Pure Vintage '64 set isn't wildly far from that at 6.0K for the neck and 7.4K for the bridge. www.fender.com/en-US/parts/pickups-preamps/pure-vintage-64-telecaster-pickup-set/0992234000.htmlThen look at the Twisted Tele set, which is 5.9K for the neck and 10.16K for the bridge. www.fender.com/en-US/parts/pickups-preamps/custom-shop-twisted-tele-pickup-set/0992215000.htmlEven Fender's own specs were all over the place from not only the basic spec but also only enforcing a relatively loose 20% tolerance. Here's a good page with some history on Tele pickups that might give you a good reference point. www.fuzzfaced.net/telecaster-pickups.htmlBut then here's the real twist: DC resistance is not actually a measure of output. It's a measure of how much wire is wound in the coil given a known value of resistance per foot (determined by composition and gauge) and it's just part of the equation. Coil geometry (including insulation thickness affecting distance between each wind), magnet type, magnet strength, whether or not the pickup has a baseplate, what that baseplate is made of, etc., can all affect output. And then frequency response affects the human ear's perceived output. How does the guitar sound? How do the pickups balance when you flip between the bridge and the neck?
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filip
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Post by filip on Apr 7, 2023 5:50:24 GMT
When I switch from bridge to neck, there is a significant volume drop. Meanwhile, I had a conversation with Rosswell. They were very kind and will send me a replacement pickup.
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gilmourd
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Post by gilmourd on Apr 7, 2023 22:02:51 GMT
When I switch from bridge to neck, there is a significant volume drop. Meanwhile, I had a conversation with Rosswell. They were very kind and will send me a replacement pickup. Can you post pics of your pickup heights, with one possibly flat from the bass side of the body so both pickups are shown?
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