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Post by freekingprawn on Jan 8, 2016 20:28:18 GMT
Does anybody here has them? Thoughts? Pros and Cons?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 7:57:20 GMT
I hope to hear more about them also! That said Im not sure how many members we have with actual pedal boards (likely some) because most seem to be playing through their multi FX pedals like Digitech, Line 6, eleven rack, behringer etc ... You are our pedal expert here
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 8:00:35 GMT
Aren't Aroma pedals the same as Mooer, only cheaper? Im starting to be lost of all the new Chinese clone-of-the-clone's-clone pedals Donner, Aroma, Nux, Mooer, Eno, Andoer ...
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Post by freekingprawn on Jan 9, 2016 13:07:49 GMT
Aren't Aroma pedals the same as Mooer, only cheaper? Im starting to be lost of all the new Chinese clone-of-the-clone's-clone pedals Donner, Aroma, Nux, Mooer, Eno, Andoer ... Aroma? First time I hear about them lol. Well they do come from the same builder, who then sells them to different companies. I was pretty much into MultiFx my whole guitar playing life, but I got bored, needed something different, more "hands on". But the Multi-Fx have great virtues to them, no doubt about that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 13:15:56 GMT
Aroma is from Tom's Line and they seem to be built like tanks I will be getting some distortion and reverb from them I think. I have fiddled with my Digitech RP70 for 2 years now and Im kind of done with it. I love the thing though! The sound is sooooo sweet sound is stereo and even the drum machine sounds so good, much better than the one on Zoom (you have to compare them your self to see what I mean). But I cant stack certain pedals like you can do with individual pedals. Its time to shape my own sound and dont have limitations. Multi FX is for me a beginner stuff. Once you learn what amp, pedals you prefer then get the real stuff.
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Post by nickinthestates on Jan 10, 2016 15:23:53 GMT
Hey guys. I just got in one Donner pedal and a few Tomsline Aromas. Che is right, the Aroma pedals are built like tanks. The Plexion pedal from Aroma is quite useful and has that Plexi hairy goodness to it. The Dumbler is tough as so much of a Dumble's Magic is the air and transparency of its overdrive. That's tough to do with a pedal as that relies a bunch on the amp underneath it... But what this does pull off is the syrupy Santana sort of tones of leads. Very cool and seems to end where the Plexion pedal starts. The Mod Simulator pedal is cool but I'm only digging the univibe tones so far. I haven't really played that pedal live though so it hasn't had its full day in the sun.
The Donner high gain pedal just came in so haven't run it through its paces though.
I think with the low cost of this wave of Chinese pedals we may see more people break away from the multi fx amps and branch out at least for a few effects. If they're anything like me once you dip your toe in the water it's easy to go in full force. I had a Boss Bluesdriver and an EHX Holy Grail reverb as my only pedal for 10 years. Then I got a couple of TC Electronic pedals I expensively and next thing you know I've got both a big pedal board and a short board as well. All for relatively short money.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 15:30:51 GMT
Still waiting for my Nux pedals to arrive. Looking forward to see the pedal reviews. I am not going the Multi FX route anymore thats for sure. There are so many limitations with multi fx at least the cheaper ones like my Digitech RP70. Sounds great but still I have never played real pedals to see the difference so stay tuned once mine arrive will test them then do some short sound check.
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Post by freekingprawn on Jan 10, 2016 17:39:59 GMT
Aroma is from Tom's Line and they seem to be built like tanks I will be getting some distortion and reverb from them I think. I have fiddled with my Digitech RP70 for 2 years now and Im kind of done with it. I love the thing though! The sound is sooooo sweet sound is stereo and even the drum machine sounds so good, much better than the one on Zoom (you have to compare them your self to see what I mean). But I cant stack certain pedals like you can do with individual pedals. Its time to shape my own sound and dont have limitations. Multi FX is for me a beginner stuff. Once you learn what amp, pedals you prefer then get the real stuff. Eheh, I ask fofr your forgiveness because my answer is going to be a long one. you know... I don't agree with the "multi FX is for beginners" assertion, and I'll tell you why: There are Multi Fx that are bottom line crappy for nowadays standards [old 80's Zoom stuff, old DOD stuff and old Digitech] and then there are Multi Fx that are of insane quality [TC Electronics G-Force, Eventide H800FW....]. But the thing is even the crappy ones have their usefulness. For you to have an idea, King Crimsons' Robert Fripp boasted once to be the first guy in the UK to have used one of the very first Zoom MFX units to the extreme; Adrian Bellew [same band] also enjoys the "old crappy" MultiFx and most of their sounds come from those units [Bellew is an aficionado of anything guitar-synth, and he confessed quite sometimes that he has no reservation as to hoard them and use them all at once if he so feels inclined to]. Both of them also use Modeling Amps [4 Johnson Millenium mostly] and the good old JC 120 solid state for their sound. The thing is, for some strange reason there was a fighting against digital FX that you can still find today [Who started it? I would bet my money on the "analog is best" pedal selling companies... the same ones that nowadays produce digital effects]. The same thing happens in relation to the "tube is better" vs Solid State amps. It's more about companies fighting against each other for the market than anything else. Guitar players, being the gullible little pricks that we can be, swallow what we are told [like the tonewood thing] and prefer to spend a fortune on single stompboxes that sound almost identical to each other [and 90% of the time they have the same components...] instead of thinking in terms of convenience [a good MultiFX unit has all you really need and then some; all put together for you inside the same package with all the parameters the original stomp boxes have [and in some cases they even go deeper than the stompboxes so you can tailor your sound in a unique and personal way]. This means, less money spent on cables, less hassle to transport and the convenience of saving and recall presets [something you hardly find on stompboxes]. However, there is a "special case" in relation to pedals that MultiFX units don't fully deliever... yet: the "hands on" simplicity. You want to change something on the fly you just turn a knob on the pedal; the same thing doesn't happen with the MultiFx units [you have to scroll through Menus and Sub Menus and hit more than a couple of buttons and do some knob twisting to do any change... and save the setting, and pray to god you don't do any mistake. Doing this LIVE as you are playing is a nightmare as you can imagine]. I spent way too many years with MultiFx units [some I owned, some I was fortunate enough to keep for a year or so to goof around with such as the G-Force, the single most goddamn perfect sounding Rack Unit I ever came across] and decided to try something a bit different. I got rid of all the MultiFX units except 1: the Zoom MS70CDR, for the simple reason it has the 3 effects I mostly use [chorus, delay and Reverb] in a good abundance and variety, which makes me save a LOT of money on single stomboxes. I'm not saying I'm not going to buy a Delay Stompbox unit in the future [chances are I will indeed] but as for Reverbs and Chorus and the Delays I have there, I really don't need to and it's one less thing to salivate about. In sum, when is it good to hang on to a MultiFX: - when you already have 1, 2, or 3 effects there that you really enjoy using [saves money] - when you want to mix and match with different "beasts" - when you have a gig and the MFX delievers the goods in a simple format [like an Amp that already has FXs for you to use, such as the Mustang or the Vypyr] - when you couldn't really be bothered about what the industry tells you. We also have to keep in mind that originally, Digital effects were supposed to be their own thing, to produce their own sound and "feeling". Someone must have had the idiotic idea that digital effects SHOULD sound like the analog ones... which is not really what they are all about. There are things that you can only achieve via the digital realm that you simply can not achieve in the physical one. An example: a Reverb with 4 minutes of tail and 24 interloping pitches going in and out of the signal in reverse. People should really take some time to think that the Digital Era is here and use it for something new and exciting. -
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Post by freekingprawn on Jan 10, 2016 17:47:03 GMT
Hey guys. I just got in one Donner pedal and a few Tomsline Aromas. Che is right, the Aroma pedals are built like tanks. The Plexion pedal from Aroma is quite useful and has that Plexi hairy goodness to it. The Dumbler is tough as so much of a Dumble's Magic is the air and transparency of its overdrive. That's tough to do with a pedal as that relies a bunch on the amp underneath it... But what this does pull off is the syrupy Santana sort of tones of leads. Very cool and seems to end where the Plexion pedal starts. The Mod Simulator pedal is cool but I'm only digging the univibe tones so far. I haven't really played that pedal live though so it hasn't had its full day in the sun. The Donner high gain pedal just came in so haven't run it through its paces though. I think with the low cost of this wave of Chinese pedals we may see more people break away from the multi fx amps and branch out at least for a few effects. If they're anything like me once you dip your toe in the water it's easy to go in full force. I had a Boss Bluesdriver and an EHX Holy Grail reverb as my only pedal for 10 years. Then I got a couple of TC Electronic pedals I expensively and next thing you know I've got both a big pedal board and a short board as well. All for relatively short money. My only hope is that the chinese tiny clones force the whole Industry to cut their prices down. Some pedals are sold for ridiculous sums of money and they aren't worth it. More than 100 euros for a one trick pony is way too much, no matter how good that pony is [or the trick]. The only reason to pay up to 150 Euros/Dollars for a pedal is if it gives you a LOT of options to goof around and it out-lives you. Next 2 pedals I'm about to buy are the Mooer Tender Octave [Micro Pog clone that is actually better and smoother that the POG, f*** EHX I'm not going to spend my money with them] and the EletricLady [also an EHX flanger clone, and though I pretty much dislike Flangers that one sounds softer which I prefer... and f**** EHX twice]
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 18:30:43 GMT
I guess I did not express my self good enough. I mean that Mutli FX is great for beginners those like me never ever having a decent amps, pedals, cabinets to find what kind of sounds one prefers. I am also not talking about the hi-rnage Multi FX products which seems awesome but to me too many options is starting to be WAY TOO time consuming and one can get lost in the Multi FX pedal (guitar modeling processors that is), one kind of always end up fiddling with options instead of playing That said I aslo think those better Multi FX are awesome for those who LOVE fiddling with endless options. For me I would like simple options which are there all the time and there are no other options to sidetrack me (if I have options I will start fiddling). As far the digital stuff I have no issues with that and I use it when recording and I think its great. I want a real time pedal board with pedals I can stomp at any given time and get the dialed in sound. This way I can also learn how the amp is behaving in the room I play etc ... So to conclude all is fine digital and analogue, its just time for me now to learn about individual analogue pedals and amp'n'speakrs and also recording with mics and sound proofing my room etc ...
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Post by freekingprawn on Jan 10, 2016 18:40:01 GMT
I guess I did not express my self good enough. I mean that Mutli FX is great for beginners those like me never ever having a decent amps, pedals, cabinets to find what kind of sounds one prefers. I am also not talking about the hi-rnage Multi FX products which seems awesome but to me too many options is starting to be WAY TOO time consuming and one can get lost in the Multi FX pedal (guitar modeling processors that is), one kind of always end up fiddling with options instead of playing That said I aslo think those better Multi FX are awesome for those who LOVE fiddling with endless options. For me I would like simple options which are there all the time and there are no other options to sidetrack me (if I have options I will start fiddling). As far the digital stuff I have no issues with that and I use it when recording and I think its great. I want a real time pedal board with pedals I can stomp at any given time and get the dialed in sound. This way I can also learn how the amp is behaving in the room I play etc ... So to conclude all is fine digital and analogue, its just time for me now to learn about individual analogue pedals and amp'n'speakrs and also recording with mics and sound proofing my room etc ... ahah, I guess I got carried away with my comment. I get your view man.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 19:14:43 GMT
and I am very likely one of the last ones on this planet who listen to what the industry is saying Im a rebel and kind of do the opposite by default
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Post by schnee on Jan 12, 2016 20:18:21 GMT
I had a Donner delay and a distortion pedal. I heard good things about them but unfortunately mine were defective. The delay was straight up broke, just crackled and buzzed when I plugged it in. The distortion had so much noise it was unusable. I returned them and got an Elecroharmonix Soul Food Drive. That thing sounds INCREDIBLE.
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Post by freekingprawn on Jan 12, 2016 21:05:27 GMT
I had a Donner delay and a distortion pedal. I heard good things about them but unfortunately mine were defective. The delay was straight up broke, just crackled and buzzed when I plugged it in. The distortion had so much noise it was unusable. I returned them and got an Elecroharmonix Soul Food Drive. That thing sounds INCREDIBLE. I had the Deluxe Big Muff pi [the newer version].... died after 3 months
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Post by schnee on Jan 12, 2016 21:20:01 GMT
I had a Donner delay and a distortion pedal. I heard good things about them but unfortunately mine were defective. The delay was straight up broke, just crackled and buzzed when I plugged it in. The distortion had so much noise it was unusable. I returned them and got an Elecroharmonix Soul Food Drive. That thing sounds INCREDIBLE. I had the Deluxe Big Muff pi [the newer version].... died after 3 months Oh the end of my post didn't show up. I had the soul food drive for about a month and it crapped out. Had to return it.
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