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Post by easyrider on Oct 22, 2018 17:10:33 GMT
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Post by Vincent on Oct 22, 2018 17:41:00 GMT
The trademarking of a name containing a colour daft. Silver Sky is a poor effort for the name of a guitar. Daft but true. DiMarzio trademarked their double cream colored humbuckers despite the fact that Gibson and others made them before they ever did. Heaven knows how you can trademark a color but they got away with it. That it why you don't see them offered for sale by the legit reputable companies like Seymour Duncan, etc. If you ask a pickup maker specifically for them they will usually oblige but they dare not advertise them. And you can buy double creams from China, of course. >Silver Sky is a poor effort for the name of a guitar. I know and it is embarrassing. They produce a guitar so unimaginatively in design and can't even think of a half-funky name to call it. If Mr Gibson was wandering down the road and a twenty dollar bill fell from his pocket Mr PRS would pick it up and say it is his, and try to copy it.
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Post by intenselycalm on Oct 22, 2018 23:07:21 GMT
Interesting conversations here.
As for the launch of this thread, I honestly wonder if HB has any claim to the shape or wood that is used in they questioned acoustic guitar. HB is a "house brand name" not a manufacturer. The actual manufacturer MAY be under a loose contract with Thomann to produce X number of a certain model. A model that may not be owned by Thomann/Harley Benton. That same Factory may be able to not only fulfill the Thomann quota, but also put a paper label on the guitar for other "brands" all during its production run. That would allow for a change in materials too. I noticed the acoustic has no branding, other than the paper label seen through the sound hole. But, who knows...
As for the PRS Silver Sky. The name doesn't mean anything to me, but I guess it is a safe name. They wouldn't call it the "John Mayer", as John may not play one forever. Wouldn't want to make a Mayer model if he jumps ship someday. I like the guitar, but was disappointed at how it was brought back, or re-introduced, or whatever. I see the PRS Silver Sky, as a slightly evolved re-launch of the PRS EG Bolt-On models from the late 80's - mid 90's. Seems some of the real early versions only hinted at nodding to a Strat. Some later models were more evolved toward the Strat and beyond it at the same time. However, I don't study PRS, just recall their ads. I think the early EGs were a Strat-ish shape with humbuckers. The single coils may have followed later. That being said, Silver Sky is a better name than EG Bolt-On. Isn't it? Any PRS historians around here? Fill us in.
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Post by LeoThunder on Oct 23, 2018 5:07:08 GMT
That Hertiecaster shares a lot of unpleasant things with my first Jedson electric. Pickups, switches, truss rod adjustment, knobs and tremolo all look heart-sinkingly familiar. Not the whammy bar itself though, rather oddly. I cannot help wondering what was unpleasant about it. I like to read about these things because it gives me ways of evaluating what I buy and how it possibly compares to the high quality, more expensive stuff I do not have. This is why I wrote a detailed review of my cheap R-458, pointing out all the flaws or compromises I saw in it. I think it's worth a separate thread and will start one.
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Post by LeoThunder on Oct 23, 2018 8:51:47 GMT
Oh yes, I must have felt the same way about my first guitar too, sitting there looking like a guitar, like that thing I wanted to learn to use and it somehow defended itself against my intentions. It wasn't bad at all, but the action was a little high up the fingerboard and I didn't even know what these screws were all for. I first set it up last year after the Internet came to help. Well, it's not too late, you can still buy one that has been fully refurbished
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Post by easyrider on Oct 23, 2018 10:28:35 GMT
Interesting conversations here. As for the launch of this thread, I honestly wonder if HB has any claim to the shape or wood that is used in they questioned acoustic guitar. HB is a "house brand name" not a manufacturer. The actual manufacturer MAY be under a loose contract with Thomann to produce X number of a certain model. A model that may not be owned by Thomann/Harley Benton. That same Factory may be able to not only fulfill the Thomann quota, but also put a paper label on the guitar for other "brands" all during its production run. That would allow for a change in materials too. I noticed the acoustic has no branding, other than the paper label seen through the sound hole. But, who knows... As for the PRS Silver Sky. The name doesn't mean anything to me, but I guess it is a safe name. They wouldn't call it the "John Mayer", as John may not play one forever. Wouldn't want to make a Mayer model if he jumps ship someday. I like the guitar, but was disappointed at how it was brought back, or re-introduced, or whatever. I see the PRS Silver Sky, as a slightly evolved re-launch of the PRS EG Bolt-On models from the late 80's - mid 90's. Seems some of the real early versions only hinted at nodding to a Strat. Some later models were more evolved toward the Strat and beyond it at the same time. However, I don't study PRS, just recall their ads. I think the early EGs were a Strat-ish shape with humbuckers. The single coils may have followed later. That being said, Silver Sky is a better name than EG Bolt-On. Isn't it? Any PRS historians around here? Fill us in. This is probably the right explanation and btw, both of them has branding, but not on the head stock as usually. My rosewood is bought four years agofrom thomann, they switched the wood about year ago.
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Post by intenselycalm on Oct 23, 2018 14:00:06 GMT
Hey easyrider , is your acoustic branded anywhere other than inside the sound hole? I was kinda thinking it would be easy for a manufacturer to add either a paper label, rubber stamp, or a wood-burn mark in the body through sound hole, well after assembly would be complete. Adding a brand to any exterior finished surface might be an interesting task. I suppose a brand badge could be mounted to a finished surface. B&G do such a thing. Thanks!
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Post by MartinB on Oct 23, 2018 15:57:59 GMT
Just on the topic of first guitars, mine was a Washburn BT-2 and it was great gave it away and have a notification setup on Reverb for the model, they’re all in the US though.
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Post by easyrider on Oct 23, 2018 21:03:32 GMT
Hey easyrider , is your acoustic branded anywhere other than inside the sound hole? I was kinda thinking it would be easy for a manufacturer to add either a paper label, rubber stamp, or a wood-burn mark in the body through sound hole, well after assembly would be complete. Adding a brand to any exterior finished surface might be an interesting task. I suppose a brand badge could be mounted to a finished surface. B&G do such a thing. Thanks! Hi,intenselycalm! My guitar is branded only in sound hole, but I bought it from Thomann and it's a HB CLF-200 RW. I just find a quite similar guitar from Aliexpress which is a seller of the Chinese counterfeit guitars. There are lot of fake Chartins Chaylors and Chibsons which are looking exactly as originals and cost 25 times less, but I just can't understand what is the point to make a fake HB? Moreover expensive than original? Or they just stole the design idea and released it under their own brand. However both guitars looks like from the same factory.
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