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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 18:00:49 GMT
Wonder what one of those tube filled preamps would sound like into it?  Then again I could get a little tube amp for close to that price. Why bother? I have that pedal and I think it is awesome. I don´t have a Katana and I want to go the IR route. At least that´s my tinker plan until christmas. This preamp pedal into an IR loader (e.g. Mooer Radar) and then into headphones or external active monitor. I changed tubes in my tube amp and now it hisses and I have to pay an expert to get that right again. I hate spending that money. So if the above scenario is successful it will mean to never buy a tube amp again (unless it is magically self-biasing and taking new tubes without the need for additional setup by an expert). I changed same power amp tubes and had no such hissing issues. Pre amp tubes you can change as you please but power amp should be the same and all changed at the same time. |
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Post by DerAlex on Nov 5, 2018 19:34:36 GMT
Thing is it's not designed like a pedal DerAlex so I can't just whack it on when I want distortion. It must be designed to be used more as you want to. Wonder if you have to bias these things too? If not, why not?! You are right. For that I have my volume pot and a Kokko booster. Don´t know about biasing that thing but I do not expect to replace the tube - those things should last longer than I will play them. (I hope.) |
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Post by DerAlex on Nov 5, 2018 19:35:49 GMT
I have that pedal and I think it is awesome. I don´t have a Katana and I want to go the IR route. At least that´s my tinker plan until christmas. This preamp pedal into an IR loader (e.g. Mooer Radar) and then into headphones or external active monitor. I changed tubes in my tube amp and now it hisses and I have to pay an expert to get that right again. I hate spending that money. So if the above scenario is successful it will mean to never buy a tube amp again (unless it is magically self-biasing and taking new tubes without the need for additional setup by an expert). I changed same power amp tubes and had no such hissing issues. Pre amp tubes you can change as you please but power amp should be the same and all changed at the same time. Yep, I changed all (preamp and poweramp) tubes and then things went wild. I guess they need to be biased and/or a tube has been bad from the start. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 20:22:28 GMT
Thing is it's not designed like a pedal DerAlex so I can't just whack it on when I want distortion. It must be designed to be used more as you want to. Wonder if you have to bias these things too? If not, why not?! You are right. For that I have my volume pot and a Kokko booster. Don´t know about biasing that thing but I do not expect to replace the tube - those things should last longer than I will play them. (I hope.) So you keep the Laney IRT on permanently with a cleanish setting and then boost it to overdrive and turn the volume down at the same time on the signal out of it? Or do you just mean you whack up the volume and signal to overdrive it? Surely that would make it stupidly loud on stage? Or do you change channels too? |
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Post by DerAlex on Nov 6, 2018 7:51:23 GMT
You are right. For that I have my volume pot and a Kokko booster. Don´t know about biasing that thing but I do not expect to replace the tube - those things should last longer than I will play them. (I hope.) So you keep the Laney IRT on permanently with a cleanish setting and then boost it to overdrive and turn the volume down at the same time on the signal out of it? Or do you just mean you whack up the volume and signal to overdrive it? Surely that would make it stupidly loud on stage? Or do you change channels too? First off - I just play at home and not on any stage. And yes, the Laney is set to crunch when vol is turned up on the guitar. By rolling down the guitar vol a bit the sound cleans up. That‘s the basic idea. And you are right that it would be more versatile to have a switch to add more gain. This guy here showcases what I have in mind - preamp with cab sim (and no more ‚amp‘ in the traditional sense): |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 10:23:53 GMT
Yes that AMT is similar to the Joyo American Sound in that respect; designed as an amp sustitute. Being solid state it only works appriximately and has none of that tube feel that the Laney must give you. I can see how, as a recording device it could be excellent. I'd just need that flexibility to use it live too so I guess some sort of extra switching compromise could be achieved. It's the reason the Blackstar HT Dual or the Behringer Tube Monster appeal more. Both could be at home live or in the studio. One is super flexible whilst the other is slightly less so but super cheap and moddable with a valve change to bring down the gain and give more usable clean room if needed. Oh, and I discovered pre amp tubes don't need biasing, so for about £12 a pop I can try different valves. Now, where to find one of those old junk shops when you need one? I need to find some old valve radios. Not seen a junk shop for eons.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 10:27:18 GMT
Man that would make a sweet amp cab!
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Post by salteedog on Nov 15, 2018 21:30:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 21:41:53 GMT
Nice to see they've decided to make them look a bit better too. I have been toying with that look on the Kat.
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Post by salteedog on Dec 16, 2018 20:24:25 GMT
@defjef So I spent a few hours this afternoon messing around again with recording using the Katana. The following settings change seems to be the secret to monitoring directly from the amp speaker (this is using Reaper). This allows allows me to monitor DAW VSTs through the katana.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 21:18:39 GMT
Interesting saltee. I'll take a look at those. The labels on those fields don't give any clues away do they?!  I was just rewatching the video for usb recording the Blackstar and did wonder whether the two had any similarities but this one looks very different. Just listening to the guy telling me what to do was like listening to the final utterings of the last Amazonian tribe's secret language. I got back from my office earlier where I was listening to Che's link to That Pedal Show's old valve amps and got the urge to try my American Sound into my 30 watt Tokai amp there. I was really impressed with the sound that came out of its little 8" speaker and reverb tank. It just goes to show what a little volume can do for an amp's sound. I love playing down at the office on a Sunday. Nobody around so I can crank it!!! |
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Post by salteedog on Dec 16, 2018 21:38:38 GMT
That ASIO / Audio drivers stuff is perpetually confusing and irritating. I've no idea of the logic behind Primary1 and Primary 2, Secondary 1 and Secondary 2.
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Post by salteedog on Dec 21, 2018 22:26:19 GMT
Here's Andrew with the news.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 15:43:34 GMT
My mistake...there is a separate Katana driver. You need to select it in your DAW inputs. I just hooked up the Kat to the Laptop and laid down a quick track over Damascus. Honestly it's easy enough. Main difficulty is the Katana output level is low. Need to figure out how to adjust that. For a laff maybe I should post the travesty that I've made of our song.   Managed to do all this stuff and monitor through the Katana but, as you say, the level is too low. I can get a mix where the new recording is louder than the backing track so I can hear myself but the recorded waveform is tiny. I seem to have tried everything in the system settings, even 200% dry out but it still looks like the signal a tiptoing fly might make. So crap. |
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Post by salteedog on Jan 17, 2019 15:58:54 GMT
I assume you have experimented with the amp vol and master knobs. Also there is a USB signal out I think, somewhere in settings....have a look for that.
I realized recently that I'm now using Asio4all drivers. I wonder if that made a difference to the level? (Do not go there yet as it's messy fiddling around with drivers).
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