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Post by JAC on Mar 6, 2019 21:00:17 GMT
I think JAC has a Fender Rumble don't you jac? I do, I have the Rumble 500 which sounds pretty darn good with a guitar. However, the most praised for guitar (by guitarists) seems to be the Rumble 200 and the Rumble Studio 40. |
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Post by DerAlex on Mar 7, 2019 10:38:21 GMT
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Post by Vincent on Mar 7, 2019 11:03:55 GMT
Is there a difference between a solid state and a modelling amplifier?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 11:15:02 GMT
Totally Vincent . Modelling amps model analogue circuitry using digital algorithms. In effect they are trying to digitally emulate all the things that happen in an analogue amp's circuit. I have a Katana amp and, although it tries, it never really gets the grunt of an analogue amp, be it a solid state or a valve one. It's like listening to a digital recording of a band rather than the band itself. On stage this can be ok and really flexible but in your room, meh, you'll be waiting for something that's never going to happen. |
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Post by Vincent on Mar 7, 2019 11:40:05 GMT
Do modelling amplifiers use diodes and transistors on the circuit board? If so then they are still solid state but with some added wizardry going on? Really I do not have a lot of technical knowledge about amplifiers. I switch them on and turn them off. The old tube vs transistor amplifiers debate about which sounds better will last longer than the vacuum tubes they talk about I suppose  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 11:42:05 GMT
There is an Ampeg GVT5-110 for 135 Euros 2nd hand! Its all tube but what about the price? It has 6V6 tubes so this could give me what Im after and can't get from V55 with 6L6. How much did these cost new I wonder? Cant find the info online
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 11:52:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 12:02:27 GMT
It's the 'digital' part of a modelling amp that seems to get in the way of direct fee @vincentl. I'm not sure that any modellers come with a bypass setting to get araound it. There's always a modelled amp going on somewhere. Unless salteedog knows different on his Katana? It's the same with my digital multi fx; hugely flexible for stage use but a bit lacking in feel especially on the overdrive settings. I spent all morning last Sunday tweaking and tweaking to get a killer lead sound which had some poke from my Katana or my Boss ME70. In the end I gave up and used an analogue OCD pedal into a hybrid Fender Champ. Much happier. So, yes there is solid state circuitry in a modeller as there may even be in a supposedly 'all tube' Blackstar. It's the digital stuff that's extra, and not always wanted. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 12:36:11 GMT
The lad gave me a better price 105 euros. I cant find not even one you tube video on this amp model! W T F |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 13:00:00 GMT
Sounds like a steal if it works. Ampeg had a good name in solid state bass amps. Hope these amps aren't just trading on that good name.
There is an annoying video of the amp's bigger brothers on Andertons channel but it seems to have been left to wander the outer reaches of loneliness otherwise.
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Post by Vincent on Mar 7, 2019 14:05:34 GMT
It's the 'digital' part of a modelling amp that seems to get in the way of direct fee @vincentl. I'm not sure that any modellers come with a bypass setting to get araound it. There's always a modelled amp going on somewhere. Unless salteedog knows different on his Katana? It's the same with my digital multi fx; hugely flexible for stage use but a bit lacking in feel especially on the overdrive settings. I spent all morning last Sunday tweaking and tweaking to get a killer lead sound which had some poke from my Katana or my Boss ME70. In the end I gave up and used an analogue OCD pedal into a hybrid Fender Champ. Much happier. So, yes there is solid state circuitry in a modeller as there may even be in a supposedly 'all tube' Blackstar. It's the digital stuff that's extra, and not always wanted. Digital effects have come a long way in the last however many years that they have been around. I have owed a few multi effect boxes but did not use them for very long. Zooms and Boss, etc. After the initial period of having fun but generally getting ****ty sounds they were put aside and forgotten, sold or given away. I stayed away from digital anything for a long time until I got a 20watt Fender Mustang 1v2. The sound of the effects were much better than what I remember getting years ago on the other boxes and I thought it was (and still do) good value for money. Not a lot to complain about, quite happy but sometimes I would be hearing strange things going on even with just a clean setting (that digital thing) and it could be annoying at times. Sometimes I was able to remind myself that it is only a practise amplifier and just forget about it and just continue although it was not easy. But for a one hundred euro practise amp they are a really good deal I think. Eventually I bought a bargain price second user Mustang GT40 as you know and I am so delighted with it. It is still digital and sounds digital but overall I find it many times nicer sounding than the 20watt 1v2. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 14:34:38 GMT
Digital seems much better when handling modulation and time based effects. It really has not impressed me on many multi effects boxes or amps when it is trying to do amp modelling or overdrives. I don't enjoy playing through a model of an amp, there always seems to be a lack of detail and good bottom end. Yes there are endless eq sections within the software but it never seems to find the stuff that's missing. Maybe another 100 quid spent on a better speaker could improve it? Well I've tried piggy backing the Katana into a couple of amp speakers that I do like the sound of but even those speakers couldn't pump out what wasn't there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 15:34:25 GMT
Sounds like a steal if it works. Ampeg had a good name in solid state bass amps. Hope these amps aren't just trading on that good name. There is an annoying video of the amp's bigger brothers on Andertons channel but it seems to have been left to wander the outer reaches of loneliness otherwise. nah, I will pass as there really is not even one proper demo of this amp which is strange as it is Ampeg we are talking about. Will look for a SS as planned! |
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Post by JAC on Mar 7, 2019 22:22:31 GMT
There is an Ampeg GVT5-110 for 135 Euros 2nd hand! Its all tube but what about the price? It has 6V6 tubes so this could give me what Im after and can't get from V55 with 6L6. How much did these cost new I wonder? Cant find the info online As far as I can see in the specs, only the preamp is valve, the amp stage is solid state.
I don't know if you have seen these videos from AmpegTV:
Ampeg did have a great name as a bass amp, but they had some shady years and quality control wasn't the best. They have supposedly gotten better over the last years and now they recently purchased by Yamaha which I think is probably a good thing as far as QC (Yamaha isn't the best at anything but is very good at everything). I am not sure if Yamaha have actually done anything with them yet though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 22:51:30 GMT
Yes, I have seen those vids and am not impressed by the tone. Maybe because those are humbuckers! Any who I declined and am looking to get that misterious SS amp ... (search goes on) ...
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