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Post by hallon on Aug 15, 2020 13:55:41 GMT
I read somewhere that a guy had a jatoba fretboard on one of his guitars, and when it was exposed to a lot of sunlight, it got darker.
Anyone had any similar experience or comment on this?
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Post by calebz on Aug 15, 2020 14:31:57 GMT
hallon - mine got darker with India ink. 
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Aug 15, 2020 18:13:44 GMT
Mine was fairly dark to start with! 😳
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Post by calebz on Aug 15, 2020 21:47:28 GMT
Mine was fairly dark to start with! 😳 Mine was a funky orange when I got it. It's better now.  |
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Aug 15, 2020 23:39:46 GMT
Mine was fairly dark to start with! 😳 Mine was a funky orange when I got it. It's better now. Mine is fairly similar to yours (after treatment). We all know hardwoods can vary in shade/colouring. The trouble with mail order (online shopping) is your buying blind and probably won't get exactly what's pictured. I suppose that's a gamble we have to take? Maybe one day we'll get some form of virtual shopping where you can see exactly what your getting? Until then it's either send it back or dig out the iron acetate or wood stain. 😜 P.S that is a lovely looking guitar 👍 |
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Aug 16, 2020 0:02:20 GMT
I read somewhere that a guy had a jatoba fretboard on one of his guitars, and when it was exposed to a lot of sunlight, it got darker. Anyone had any similar experience or comment on this? You probably know usually sunlight fades or lightens (bleaches) most bare woods. But I was wondering if perhaps if someone treated the fretboard with some form of mineral oil (fretboard conditioner). Perhaps the sunlight may react with the oil and this could have a darkening effect? Just a thought as some clear oil based finishes get an Amber/yellowing or dirty looking colouring due to sunlight. 🤔 |
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Post by hallon on Aug 17, 2020 1:10:18 GMT
hallon - mine got darker with India ink. India ink, is that some kind of pen marker? |
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Post by hallon on Aug 17, 2020 1:13:00 GMT
I read somewhere that a guy had a jatoba fretboard on one of his guitars, and when it was exposed to a lot of sunlight, it got darker. Anyone had any similar experience or comment on this? You probably know usually sunlight fades or lightens (bleaches) most bare woods. But I was wondering if perhaps if someone treated the fretboard with some form of mineral oil (fretboard conditioner). Perhaps the sunlight may react with the oil and this could have a darkening effect? Just a thought as some clear oil based finishes get an Amber/yellowing or dirty looking colouring due to sunlight. 🤔 Yeah that's what I thought as well. Anyone recommend something to make the jatoba fretboard look dark, some oil? Or Anyone else use indian ink? |
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Post by calebz on Aug 17, 2020 5:09:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 8:25:47 GMT
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Post by hallon on Aug 17, 2020 12:49:34 GMT
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Post by hallon on Aug 17, 2020 12:58:46 GMT
The link calebz posted did not say waterproof. The indian ink you linked to did not say transparent. Or am i missing something? :/ What is the deal with "indian" ink, or is it just a name, and just the same as other types of ink? |
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Post by Donut on Aug 17, 2020 13:32:02 GMT
From a building supplies website, but wood is wood! Color: When the wood is first harvested, it will be tan, yellow, or a pink salmon color depending on whether it is heartwood or sapwood. With age and exposure to sunlight, it will darken to a deep reddish brown color. From an Ibanez user site: Hi Guys,
I am from Brazil and the wood "Jatobá" darkens with time, any attempt to dye the wood only worsens the result, it tends to get the color similar to chocolate. It's patience and waiting to get dark over time. Incidentally, this species is also at risk of extinction. I have in my house a log of this kind, but I will use it to make an acoustic guitar. For the fretboard I would use a wood called "Ypê" that is similar to Maple, hard as rock and suitable for typing. www.jemsite.com/forums/f15/help-jatoba-brazilian-cherry-wood-jem-jr-fretboard-162289-2.html |
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Aug 17, 2020 14:12:10 GMT
I don't think HB are using Brazilian Jatoba more likely an Asian derivative? Like most timber species there are sub species of each which are slightly different.
Again how the timber is harvested and prepared (kiln dried vs air dried, how its grown etc) also has an effect.
Again with any wood stain, type water based vs oil/mineral based will have different effect on different timbers. I'm sure your all aware how wood properties vary even in the same species. A bit of research is often needed, again I'm sure most people know this.
Tbh I've yet to find a light coloured timber that can't be stained or treated to darken it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 17:14:18 GMT
The link calebz posted did not say waterproof. The indian ink you linked to did not say transparent. Or am i missing something? :/ What is the deal with "indian" ink, or is it just a name, and just the same as other types of ink? Yep, you missed the descriptions hallon : calebz link: About this item USING ONLY HIGH-QUALITY PIGMENT - Made from highly opaque, carbon black pigment OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE - Offers excellent reproduction quality on absorbent surfaces WITHSTANDS FADING – Offers optimum lightfastness USE WITH A VARIETY OF TOOLS - Easily applied by pen, brush, steel brush or airbrush, Speedball’s India Ink is free-flowing, non-clogging and waterproofCONVENIENT SIZE – 2-Ounce plastic jar My link: It is water resistant and transparentCan be applied with brush, dip pen or airbrush Fast drying and have adhesion on most of the surfaces |
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