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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 11:57:55 GMT
Thanks fellas. Appreciated everyone's input.
Listened to all the cheapie contenders including the Caline. I thought most were pretty darned good in fact, but with a view to my purpose the tones of one stood out to my ears. Decision made. And the winner is ...... Joyo's JF-12 Voodoo Octave. Ordered.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Dec 9, 2020 12:20:48 GMT
These gals got it nailed! That should lead to a criminal prosecution! "Book em Danno murder one to a decent song".
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Dec 9, 2020 12:29:43 GMT
I can't say for sure, but I think the Fulltone is the fuzz used on this song. I did have the Fulltone but sold it. It's a really good pedal, I would expect the Joyo to be really good too. Re the spluttering dying fuzz sound, low batteries are supposed to achieve it, can't say I ever chased that particular tone, pedals with a Bias knob are supposed to be able to achieve it though. The dying battery doesn't work. I searched loads to find out how to get it. While most vids the people can get the tone that stuttering almost breaking up seems near impossible? What doesn't help is Mr Greenbaum can't remember exactly how it was achieved. Tbh I think that makes the song along with the kill switch/whammy effect on the solo licks and bits. Perhaps how it was recored has something to do with it? So that beyond me. There is a few theories but none seem the correct answer. It's certainly a great sound.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Dec 9, 2020 12:34:30 GMT
I listened to this video on headphones and I think it may have put me off ALL octave fuzzes for life! Does anyone here find any of these desirable? I'm not a lover of the octave on with the fuzz. I suppose there are those that use it in a musical way. Its bit of a waste for me but if I suddenly become the reincarnation of Jimi Hendrix I might be able to use it? 🙄
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Dec 9, 2020 13:06:13 GMT
Anyone listened to this one. Sounds pretty epic to me, especially in the band mix in the last third. Some great sustain and feedback harmonics start to generate too. Sounds very good. A big muff clone, of which muff I couldn't get but he did say fantastico. 😊 Are we going down the fuzz rabbit hole like we did on ODs? Germanium, silicon and the rest of the bells and whistles? 🤗
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 13:13:58 GMT
Great. Keep us posted on your experience of it. Hope it's not a long wait. Was there any particular video that clinched it? Would be interesting to hear it. Reliable supplier on AliExpress I've used on many occasions. Super price. Won't be here until ETA 03 Jan. That's fine. I'm patient. Listened to multiple vids on most of the options, including the Voodoo Octave. The demo of it in this vid clinched the Joyo JF-12 for me.
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DefJef
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Due to musical differences I've decided I can't work with myself any more.
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Post by DefJef on Dec 9, 2020 15:34:05 GMT
I'm a little way down that fuzz rabbit hole but think I'm not so far in that I can't back out blindwilly3fingers . It did just strike me though after hearing those nasty versions on the Boss Katana and then the nice one on the pink jazzmaster (he doesn't say which amp), that the pairing of the right amp to the right fuzz is important. I have read on the Gilmourish website that this is extremely important and goes for overdrives too. The general recommendation seems to be that a Muff doesn't like mids scooped amps. That panicked me a bit because, whilst I loved that Biyang Fuzz Star, I fear my Bugera is closer to a Fender than a Marshall or VOX. Maybe it isn't mids scooped though? I thought I'd see if I could make sure it wasn't by playing through a Biyang EQ pedal with a mid hump applied! It definitely helped my Mighty Sound fuzz to fuzz more. Who knows if a Muff style pedal would work with it though. I gather the Green Russian Muffs seem to be more forgiving than some of the others. And that switch on the Biyang Fuzz Star might solve my problems anyway. I'm very tempted. At least on the upside of all this experimentation is that I managed to invent a new riff that I'm calling Peach Fuzz! It reminded me that I often find it better to not dream of a tone and then search forever for it. Much better for me to hear what some equipment actually does and then take advantage of whatever that characteristic is and play to its strengths.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Dec 9, 2020 16:45:05 GMT
I think as you say pairing the pedal with the right amp is definitely an important factor DefJef. It would be good if more reviewers gave this type of information. Also if the pedal does or doesn't work with other pedals or certain effects.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2020 14:23:21 GMT
It did just strike me though after hearing those nasty versions on the Boss Katana and then the nice one on the pink jazzmaster (he doesn't say which amp), that the pairing of the right amp to the right fuzz is important. I have read on the Gilmourish website that this is extremely important and goes for overdrives too.... < snip>... Much better for me to hear what some equipment actually does and then take advantage of whatever that characteristic is and play to its strengths. This. I had read sufficient quite positive reviews on the unit, taking into considerationon what I'd heard and how the users reporting positively or negatively were deploying the JF-12 including the potential I could see in that vid I linked. Then I read this by: Quote on: Tommo76 4.0 out of 5 stars Worth the perseverance however, your amp will be the overall judge.Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 6 May 2019 Verified Purchase I bought this after trawling reviews, videos and demos online as I started to build my own pedal board. I'd never considered owning or using a fuzz before but based on what I'd read, seen & heard this seemed like a good starting option. Delivery was quick and efficient as expected and out of the (mo frills) box it appeared to be a sturdy unit. Approximately a year down the line it still looks good as new, sat on my board, the metal chassis takes the kicks & stomps associated with frantic playing well while the knobs and switches stand up well to adjustment with little background noise. When I first received and set up the Joyo Voodoo Octave Fuzz I'll be honest I was a tad dissatisfied. The sounds coming out of my clean solid state Line 6 were no where near what I was anticipating having watched various demos of the device. No amount of tweaking appeared to have an effect until... A jam with a few other mates and one plugged into a Blackstar tube combo. Well, it sounded totally different. Long story short flogged my L6, bought a Blackstar and now I have a good usable fuzz that allows good 60/70s Sabbath, Queen, Who, Jimi even Quo alike sounds.It's definitely a decent device for the money, based on a now obsolete pedal that cost around 4 times as much new this is a great fuzz, the octave function as many have mentioned doesn't do too much when switched in but does add a bit of depth I've found to the sound. However for the cash it's a great pedal for those experimental types looking for a different but usable sound. In spite of a slow start I'm happy with my Joyo Voodoo Octave Fuzz." End quote. I wanted the Fuzz mainly for my Blackstar Artist 30 6L6 valve combo. If it works with my TVP and Fender Champ 100 too, bonus. The Fender has a 2nd separate selectable RF bypass channel input for use with pedals. If it doesn't do for me, no regrets at GBP£24.50 (under AUD$43) shipped to my door even if won't arrive until after New Year. Could've actually saved another -£2 off, but avoiding temptation to greed with what is already a killer price, I went with a preferred seller I've used many times on AliExpress who is rock solid reliable. Always delivers the genuine article in OEM box well packed which ships and transits fast. Best available local price I could source was AUD$65.
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