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Post by kodiakblair on Jun 25, 2015 16:28:40 GMT
Great news regarding the neck.
Do you think the SC550 would be more suited to say a Bluesy Rock style ?
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Post by nappel on Jun 25, 2015 17:00:32 GMT
the german post is striking… i still didnt get the guitars… almost frustrating to read how nice the guitar is.
the pickups should be ceramic,dont know why wilkinson uses ceramic on the "slash" style pickups instead of alnico 2.
but yeah,the l450 is the darkest sounding guitar in my collection too. in a good way dark sounding
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 17:13:01 GMT
Yeah blues-rock should be fine with these and most certainly Guns'n'Roses well this guitar was intended to be one of Slash's guitars copy. No way the post is on strike when you are waiting for this beauty. What a bummer Lets hope they get going soon
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 14:08:40 GMT
Little update; I tried to lower the action because it was a bit high. I lowered the bridge and there was lots of buzz in the higher fret end, different frets for different strings (is this normal). So I gave some relief to the neck but that didnt help much. I checked the frets with a credit card and found a few uneven frets which I tried gently to hammer down with a small rubber hammer then rechecked. But still there is buzz on some which very likely need filing. I just dont feel comfortable to do this because its a fine guitar and I really don't want to mess it up. One more thing; if the neck has a "bow" one is to tighten the truss rod (clockwise), and if the neck has a "hump" one is to unscrew the truss rod (counter-clockwise) right? The guitar didnt have buzzing issues out of the box only after I lowered the bridge. And after I gently hammered the uneven frets and started playing with the truss rod I seem not to be able to get rid of a very bad buzz on the 12th and 14th fret (the string is touching the next fret). Did I mess it all up? Crap, I will have to pay 50 euros to the local Luthier to fix this This will have to wait because Im broke now after buying this guitar.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 15:58:25 GMT
Ok, I fiddled with it some more and now I have mostly fret out (dead fret) on the 14th fret and some on the 15th on higher strings. I have a slight relief on the neck and and the distance between the last fret (measured from the fretboard) and the 6th string is just under 2mm. Same on the 1st (high e) string. I read somewhere that distance on Les Paul should be 2mm on the last fret but is that the distance from the fret itself or the fretboard where the last fret is?
Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 19:09:04 GMT
Went through all the frets and this is how it looks;
e - note fretting out when playing the 14th fret must file the 15th fret B - same as e G - same as e + buzz when playing 20th fret D - same as e + buzz when playing 19th, 20th and 21th fret A - same as e + buzz when playing 16th fret E - buzz when playing 14th and 17th fret but most of the frets have some buzz on the E string
Since most issues seem above the 12th fret in the higher register could this also be an issue with the truss rod adjustment?
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Post by kodiakblair on Jun 26, 2015 20:42:30 GMT
Che
I don't think you've allowed enough relief and while I'm a bass player I've set up a fair few guitars.
Guitar string height is measured at the 12th fret not the last. Normally 1.5 - 2mm at the 12th.
Try slackening the truss rod slightly to gain more relief.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 21:19:06 GMT
Ok, I was on the Gibson site and looked at the Les Paul specs so did as you say on the 12th fret at 2 mm. I also allowed some slight neck relief was better but still the 15th fret was higher than the 14th causing fretting out at the 14th fret so I filed the 15th fret and now its much better, good actually. Also did some filing at the 18th fret for the low E and now there is no issues (maybe a little if I dig hard into the strings but that is normal I think). Oh boy and I thought I will be going to the luthier to fill his pocket with money which I dont have (doh) I also set the pickup heights as described at the Gibson page. Also 2mm for bridge and 2,5mm for neck pup using the last fret when measuring. It sounds great now, maybe the neck is a bit too close because it is sharper sounding but that can be remedied by screwing down the pots. Im learning ...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 21:20:35 GMT
Just to add; The L-450Plus seems perfect for rhythm playing and the SC-550 more as a lead guitar, in my limited opinion that is
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Post by nappel on Jun 26, 2015 21:32:56 GMT
hard to tell from here che. there are some points to look at on this guitar. i got the guitar myself today and realised its cheap tune-o-matic bridge. its the old style one with this old little metal bracket holding the saddles down. its a bad design IMO. could it be that the strings got different heights because of that?is the metal bracket twisted? and the strings didnt follow the radius of the fretboard? the relief on the fretboard doesnt got much effect in the high register of the fretboard.bad fretwork or bad bridge will be the answer here. you COULD try to exchange the bridges of the L450+ and the sc550 and look if you still got the same problem. if yes… you got bad frets and will need to raise the action again send it back,or try to file them
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Post by kodiakblair on Jun 26, 2015 21:33:43 GMT
Now that has made my night Che We're all learning all the time and it's good to pass on any wee titbit. I'd expect the intonation to change slightly after altering the relief,thankfully it's an easy task. My advice to you is stop fiddling with screwdrivers etc tonight. Just play the darn thing
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Post by nappel on Jun 26, 2015 21:37:50 GMT
lol..i should have wait a minute longer to answer. you solved it yourself,thats nice!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 22:15:26 GMT
NAppel Im glad you've got your guitar is it nice ? Hows the flame top ? Make sure to make a few pictures before the review for a starter we are dying to see it!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 22:18:09 GMT
If I dont manage to brighten the neck pickup tomorrow by removing the pickup screws I will likely buy a P90 humbucker format for the neck. Its a little bit too muddy and doesnt fit well with this hot and bright bridge I feel. Will update once I do this trick and hear it sing
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 7:12:13 GMT
Just measured the action on 12th fret on the L450plus and the low E is 1,5mm and the high e is 1 mm, very low action and no buzzing. Man I have got a very fine L 450 I must say with extremely good fret work and neck. And as NAppel say the bridge is of better quality. I wonder why I paid so much for the SC550? The AAAA top is extremely nice but the body is made also of 3 piece wood, The neck heel is angeled for better playability on high notes. The pots and the 3 way switch seem much better. Those strap locks dont seem like a great quality and I dont feel I can trust them. But we will see. Maybe I will just change them for regular strap pins.
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