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Post by Djangle on Oct 5, 2020 0:37:48 GMT
I can usually find a sound I like on any type of OD pedal but I've only tried klon type pedals on Bias FX and compared to a TS they seem to retain more of the clean sound but also seem less "harsh" when used as a boost or low gain tone that's more pleasing to the ear. I'm hoping this is the case when used into a real amp and that it pairs well with my AC tone (always on).....also want to try out this stacking malarkey with my TS clone. I'm sure it'll be fine.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 0:44:49 GMT
Yes I've found TS pedals rather dark and mushy too. Much preferred an OCD style into flat and mid scooped amps.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 20:08:49 GMT
Good review. But what I get from it is this: if I'm already happy with the tone of my my Mosky SH, the Pegasus will do about the exact same thing -- so it won't make me want to sell the Mosky?
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Oct 5, 2020 22:15:29 GMT
Good review. But what I get from it is this: if I'm already happy with the tone of my my Mosky SH, the Pegasus will do about the exact same thing -- so it won't make me want to sell the Mosky? There's not a lot in it @coldwar1977 the pegasus is more robust construction wise and a tad smoother/cleaner when cranking it up. The mosky as you know has that voice switch for a little more dirt. Obviously it's early days but I prefer the pegasus. I could have stuck with the mosky as it did what it's supposed to do. Basically I've decided the klon type sound is the main pedal for me. No more OD pedals for me unless I get silly and fork out for a Ryra or J. Rocket Archer. 🙄 If your happy with the mosky no point changing it, unless it breaks. ðŸ¤
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 9:31:51 GMT
My Pegasus just arrived as I was heading off to work. Couldn't resist quickly taking a look at it. Am I right in thinking this pedal does NOT have a battery compartment or do you have to screw it apart? Would seem strange for such a large pedal.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Oct 16, 2020 16:09:47 GMT
I don't believe it does have a battery compartment inside? The one I have came with a short battery adaptor lead. If I remember correctly in the reviews I read one of the cons was no battery compartment. Whether you can squeeze a battery in there again I dont know?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 16:32:11 GMT
Yeah, I never came across any mention of the battery anywhere on any reviews. Checking the Caline pedals effects site it seems that none of the ones I looked at mention a battery - they mostly say 'powered by 9v adaptor' - although it is generally assumed that this size of pedal does have that option. I totally overlooked that omission. Just goes to show how you can never assume anything. I'll do some comparisons with my other overdrives and boosters this weekend. Still waiting for the Pure Sky to come. That'll be batteryless too no doubt.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 16:51:49 GMT
Just got home and took a look inside. There's room to take a battery and it looks like it could be a simple wiring job. The screws holding the base on are stubby things and quick to take out. In a way, battery powering it would be simpler than on an original Crybaby Wah.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 15:06:46 GMT
Oh dear. Day 1 with this Pegasus is making me think it's a bit redundant for me. It doesn't clean boost as well as my Kokko Boost does, somehow taking the shine off, and with less tonal adjustment too. I seemed to really have to work at it to find a usable sound. Maybe somewhere in its circuitry it's taking away a frequency that I need. What was certainly noticeable was that my amp's reverb seemed to disappear with the Peg on. As soon as I switched it off the reverb shimmered back. So it must be boosting frequencies that the reverb doesn't handle well or suppressing those that it likes. Then in the distorted overdrive area beyond 12 o'clock on the gain I didn't seem to find anything special. Again the Kokko seems to do that for me and the Mosky OCD handles the bigger distortions admirably. I even tried my less than popular Joyo Vintage Overdrive TS clone against it and found it slightly more enjoyable. This is using just an HSS Pacifica into a Bugera V22. Perhaps it's not ideal with that combination. Something's not working for me. I'll try the more tricky stacking options tomorrow. I did wonder whether one solution to all this volume change problem may be a volume pedal in my effects loop operating as a master volume AFTER the preamp tubes. I'm thinking I may need a keyboard vol pedal though. Oh, and taking a look at the Pegasus's construction, whilst the shafts of the tone and volume knobs are clearly metal, it seems to me that the gain knob's shaft may be plastic. I was a little nervous to pull the knob off to take a really good look as I was afraid of snappage.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Oct 17, 2020 16:17:57 GMT
Oh dear, I did advise you to cancel the order in an earlier post. You had already deemed the klon type pedals a failure for you requirements, earlier in this thread. You appeared to have the answers that it wouldn't do what you needed.
It's not a clean boost pedal although it can used as a form of boost. Its an overdrive pedal that wont suit all tastes or requirements.
It won't do what your kokko boost does as you already said. The klon has a dual pot (one taper is reversed) this reduces one range of frequencies as it increases another (that's as techy as I get,and you probably know all about the dual pot). I don't know if the klones have this? Maybe they are just a simulation or mild overdrive. The klon and its klones label the controls with different names so if they do have the dual pot good luck knowing which it is. It may well be the frequencies you described? I can't be bothered to read or research klon type pedals anymore. All I know is I like it and it works for me. I took a gamble and got lucky.
Not that I know your rig but your boost appears the most important part, and you just want an overdrive you like? I don't think a klon type would do what you want it to, I could of course be wrong.
Good luck with the timmy clone or volume pedal, hopefully one or both will be the answer your looking for.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 16:38:15 GMT
Yes I should have listened to you (and me - but I always doubt me! ). I will see if it stacks well with something else but I'm beginning to think it's destined for the post office. I just need to find a more amp like distortion/overdrive pedal that will suit me and I'm right at the bottom of my learning ladder for that. I'm starting to wonder about Dumble style pedals that get some bass into the picture if I DON'T go down the volume pedal route. Something like a Lunar Drive might suit or a rather expensive Wampler Euphoria if I can find either of them second hand. I have found a low impedance volume pedal that may suit me plus my keyboard mate may have a spare one kicking around for me to try out. I'm sure the local police would see me fetching it as a 'reasonable excuse' to drive out of my locked down county borough!
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Oct 17, 2020 17:30:47 GMT
Well @defjef if your going the Dumble route don't forget you have to have one fitted in your ferrari as well. 😜
Seriously if your looking for cheap Dumble sounding pedals have a look at the reviews of the sonicake blue skreamer. I know on first look you read tube screamer but apparently it's a Dumble type pedal. Sonicake also do a twiggy blues multi pedal that's supposed to be a Dumble in a box (I think that's how they refer to it?). I've seen very good vids and reviews for both. I have a sonicake rockstage multi pedal which is supposedly a Marshall in a box. It definitely does sound like a Marshall 70s/80s stack. It also has a cab sim switch if you need it.
I don't have any experience of a real Dumble or the two sonicake clones. So I'm going on videos that suggesting they are close?
May not be what you are looking for especially the multi pedal but just thought I'd throw them into the ring.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 17:44:51 GMT
Cheers blindwilly3fingers I will check out that Sonicake. I've just purchased a low impedence volume pedal anyway to test my theory. I am very guilty of misunderstanding pedals. I believed the Tubescreamer was designed to sound like screaming tubes for many years till I realised it wasn't, it was designed to push your own preamp tubes to scream, and that's a very different thing that causes me problems. I'll have to see if the Blue Skreamer approaches things differently. Of course there's no such thing as a Dumble emulator as each amp was designed with a different purpose in mind. The question is WHICH Dumble is being emulated? Maybe the Twiggy Blues tries to emulate ALL of them?
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Oct 17, 2020 17:55:21 GMT
I'll leave you to find out if the twiggy blues emulates one or more dumbles @defjef.
I've accumulated over half a dozen OD pedals in the past 2 years and looked into lots more, luckily I stumbled (not quite dumbled) into the klon type clones that work for me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 18:18:12 GMT
I'm starting to wonder if ALL overdrives achieve what they do through overdriving your tubes, and why they don't necessarily work well with solid state amps? This is why I'm beginning to think fuzzes and distortions may be more my thing if that volume pedal plan doesn't come off. Distortions are an area that I totally don't know but it does remind me that the reason I liked the Soul Food Klon Klone that I had heard the other week was because it was going into a Boss DS-1?
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