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Post by MartinB on May 6, 2018 23:11:37 GMT
I know the theory explanation of compression, I just don’t like it most of the time. I don’t really understand why people want that.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 5:39:58 GMT
Martin, if your Forcefield Comp is anything like the HB Dyna Comp I can understand why you think like that As defjef stated already it seems very many compressors are rather sustainers only and do little to the rest of the tone. Some folks like that, I dont. I have a theory and some on you tube also mentioned this; When I first started playing el-guitar 5 years ago I haven't developed sensitive ear to Tone. I plugged the Strat into a HB 10 watt amp and I rocked! After a few month I felt it sounded crap. So I discovered Digitech RP70 and WOW the Sonic World opened up its doors for me I started discovering all the ODs, Dist, Chorus, Delays, Reverbs .... oh just a never ending fx goodness Then after a year or so I felt something didn't sound right so I started looking into Tube amps, OD in stomp form and other pickups and WOW yet again another level of the Sonic Galaxy opened up to me! Then I felt again something not sounding totally to my taste ... long story short ... what I trying to say is, our ear starts at some point and gets used to the tone so well that it can notice whats missing according to our personal feel, our personal innermost groove so to speak. So we keep seeking that ingredients. We get it but then again we come to the point of our ear getting even more sensitive and so on ... Compressor usually being the last pedal one looks into as it is not as obvious as the other FX. Its just that point of ones ear coming to that level of sensing ones Tone This is inspired by my personal story of course, others might have other perspective on why they decided to get a compressor (not sustainer)
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 13:35:37 GMT
Generally I would avoid using Compressor if I'm cranking my OD pedal as it already compresses the tone. I use the Digitech RP225 compressor which ain't the best for me. That said I usually use OD to just get into that sweet sizzle, still very much clean. In this case a good compressor can give sweet honey and milk with strawberries tone
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Post by Djangle on May 7, 2018 14:39:21 GMT
MartinB if you ever GAS for a 12 string electric you'll know why you need it. An electric 12 bridge pup can get very ice picky and the compressor smooths it all out to a lovely squishy jangle.
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Post by DefJef on May 7, 2018 15:26:50 GMT
MartinB if you ever GAS for a 12 string electric you'll know why you need it. An electric 12 bridge pup can get very ice picky and the compressor smooths it all out to a lovely squishy jangle. Hmm. 12 string electric. That's something I don't have.... Mind you, I play mostly with fingers and 12 strings don't play fair when I'm doing that. I end up taking one pair of strings off and Nashville tuning the rest. Wouldn't mind trying an electric though. I've not found a pedal that does 12 string effect very well. Are you a Byrds fan Djangle?
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 15:35:30 GMT
I tried a 12 string once and it didn't take well arpeggio style but did sound huge when strumming whole chords !
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Post by MartinB on May 7, 2018 16:32:27 GMT
The only time I find the comp useful is playing grungy stuff or funk. Would be useful for metal tooI would imagine.
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Post by salteedog on May 7, 2018 16:47:29 GMT
A compressor is very useful for getting a sharp attack country picking sound too.
A tele with a compressor + slap back delay is a classic combination.
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Post by Djangle on May 7, 2018 18:30:04 GMT
DefJef I play with thumb and fingers probably more than I use a plectrum. On the 12string I use a thumb pick along with my index and middle fingers but can't abide picks on those fingers it just feels alien. I manage to get by OK but it's not perfect and may try growing my nails longer at some point but in my line of work they ain't going to last very long. The main gripe I have with my 12 string is the neck is very wide which hurts my fretting hand after playing for about an hour. As far as I know only Rickenbacker 12s have slimmer necks but they're just way too pricey to justify buying at the minute. I switch to Nashville tuning for a bit when I change the strings on the 12 and it's great fun especially when you record to a mix for some Marresque jangle. And yes I'm a big Byrds fan or folk rock in general in fact I was listening to some Fairport Convention earlier. @chedapapa you need to go back and try again as a 12 string IMO is great for arpeggio but terrible for bends.
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Post by salteedog on May 7, 2018 23:17:34 GMT
Yes...long attack time on compressor will soften the attack.
Yer man Nick talks about it here (although it's not that easy to hear the subtle effect via youtube). I skipped to the bit that's relevant - 2 min.
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