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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 11:16:26 GMT
You may be interested in the way Steven Wilson goes about things. He's a tone chaser and tries all sorts of 'wrong ways' to do things. He'll compress overdrive and overdrive reverb. Check out this discussion forum and some of his gear and tracks too. He's not a lead guitarist as such, more of a melodic rhythmist and tends not to be showy or particularly technical, unlike Guthrie Govan. But even Guthrie does have a fine taste-o-meter and only does showy when his band peers demand it. Stealing Steven Wilson's tonesI get more snappy attack when Comp is placed after the OD pedal. Very nice on the Neck+Bridge in Parallel but kind of muffles the other switch positions! Will experiment some more.
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Post by gus on Aug 12, 2018 14:34:20 GMT
How much does the internal buffer effect the pure guitar signal when in bypass/switched off mode?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 21:26:47 GMT
How much does the internal buffer effect the pure guitar signal when in bypass/switched off mode? I haven't A-B it to be honest. That said I havent got the impression that it colors anything. I certainly don't care about it as this pedals Always On just an awesome sounding compressor. UPDATE; this pedal is still placed after my OD and it will certainly stay there! The OD sounds much more dynamic when going into this compressor. Very very happy with it. May it live long!
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Post by MartinB on Aug 12, 2018 22:33:38 GMT
That’s interesting. I don’t like my compressor because I feel it reduces my dynamics.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 8:32:23 GMT
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DefJef
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Due to musical differences I've decided I can't work with myself any more.
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Post by DefJef on Aug 13, 2018 9:17:32 GMT
That’s interesting. I don’t like my compressor because I feel it reduces my dynamics. That's exactly what a compressor's job is MartinB , to squash the peaks. Many will also raise the noise so need to be carefully set not to just amplify the hiss from pedals before them. I have a Boss one that is handy for funky stuff where dynamics are a bit less important but it rarely stays in my chain for long. It seems to ruin my tone even when off because Boss compressors are not true bypass. Che is right in finding the OD seeming to be more dynamic before the compression because the compressor can't change the sound of the signal coming in to it, only its relative volume. The signal hitting the OD first allows it to do it's job: the harder a signal hits it the more it will overdrive. The end result is then compressed so the levels are evened out. What is actually happening is more responsiveness from the OD instead of a flat, dynamic-less signal hitting the OD giving a more regular sound to every note or strum. More fuzz or distortion like.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 9:58:42 GMT
Defjef it seems that Boss of your is nothing like my CKK Gears mine is very silent. Sure if I crank the whole lot than it will get a bit noisy but nothing to worry about. I really love my rig as so far I have no noise issues even on high volume and I do play single coils often and this Comp is Always on! I think some gear simply introduces noise. Maybe stay away from Boss I have read many reviews stating that Boss pedals can sound great but have noise issues hence JHS and others trying to mod them. I don't see any need to mod this perfection that CKK Gear is! Even the CKK Lunar Drive is just awesome being an OD pedal that can emulate tube amp breakup even enter into Marshall higher gain territory and still not introduce that annoying noise. Im not entirely sure but Gears might be true bypass as it has the dry/wet knob too and I honestly cant hear any deterioration of "my tone" either when its on or off. Just a fantastic pedal! I know some cheap cables did introduce noise and some power supplies too. My Bugera V55 would be noisy if plugged into a power socket without ground, hence me making sure to tell my electrician to make all sockets with ground this time! (old Danish houses had sockets with ground ONLY in the kitchen not in other rooms!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 13:22:04 GMT
It's not a noisy pedal Che, in fact I also modded it to give a more usable range of settings and it really did make it more useful, it's just that it brings the noise floor up if I use any of the sustain knob and you hear that noise swell in as a signal decays. After several years of compressor trials I've decided it's not usually for me and keep it in a drawer for when it might be useful. I don't use it on my ME70 multi fx either but there it is also fixed at the traditional front of the chain so is even less flexible. My Katana allows me to add it in different place on my chain so it might be worth an experiment. Then again, I only seem to enjoy playing pretty clean these days and compression just seems to add ice pick attack which reminds me of cheap ceramics. Not my mug of cocoa. Maybe I'll find a use for the pedal without any sustain on. Just don't seem to require it right now. Yeah I felt the same when I had my Dyna Comp, terrible stuff! Im glad to say that in all you mentioned here I can not see any of it happening with my dear CKK Gears! I wish we lived closer so you could try it out to hear for your self. All that noise swelling you describe I only had in my Digitech RP 225 multi pedal when using the Compressor but not with CKK Gears.
Bret Kingman would not praise this pedal so much if it wasn't breath taking, as that lad has reviewed and used even the most expensive of Compressors. I haven't chosen this one without watching and reading millions of reviews on compressors Glad I did the right choice as this very pedal has given me "my tone" no matter what guitar or pickup I use! (maybe that's why I liked the tone of those Roswell humbuckers).
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Post by DerAlex on Aug 13, 2018 16:04:20 GMT
How does the Kokko Compressor pedal compare to the CKK? Any experience from anyone (as the Kokko is a Dynacomp clone)?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 19:57:43 GMT
I'm wondering if it's that 'mix' knob that's making things sound nice for you @chedapapa . Where do you set that? My Boss has a 'tone' knob instead which seems a bit of a redundant feature to me. Mix is either 12 or 1 o'clock. Sustain is either 12 or 3 o'clock Level is around 9 or 10 o'clock. Attack 9 or 11 o'clock. This pedal has a Tone 3 way toggle switch which I always have on Fat as Im on single coils most of the time and my Cruiser is not a fat humbucker so can be treated the same.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 19:59:41 GMT
How does the Kokko Compressor pedal compare to the CKK? Any experience from anyone (as the Kokko is a Dynacomp clone)? Never tried that one but if its anything similar to the HB Dyna Comp (I had) then it is not worth much in my opinion. I never used that one as when I did it did nothing to make me feel WOW as CKK Gears does.
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