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Post by mattychaddy123 on Jul 30, 2019 18:25:25 GMT
the title says it all, i'm a beginner and i would like to know which is better out of the SC-custom and the SC-450 Plus.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Jul 30, 2019 19:06:06 GMT
Sc custom has slightly better specs and different electronics set up. All depends on what your looking for.
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Post by mattychaddy123 on Jul 30, 2019 19:21:40 GMT
Sc custom has slightly better specs and different electronics set up. All depends on what your looking for. im looking for a guitar that i can play rock music and blues with.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Jul 30, 2019 19:33:39 GMT
Either of the two you mention will be ok for that. If I had the choice of the two I'd go for the SC custom. But that's me, I have an SC 550 which I love, I went for that because it had the better specs and 2 volume 2 tone configuration of a Les Paul. I do like the blue and the honey SC customs though they look killer.
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Post by mattychaddy123 on Jul 30, 2019 19:40:08 GMT
Either of the two you mention will be ok for that. If I had the choice of the two I'd go for the SC custom. But that's me, I have an SC 550 which I love, I went for that because it had the better specs and 2 volume 2 tone configuration of a Les Paul. I do like the blue and the honey SC customs though they look killer. i like how the SC-450 has 2 volume and 2 tone so its more like a les paul but the SC-custom is also nice. what would make you go for the SC-custom over the SC-450?
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Jul 30, 2019 20:18:55 GMT
The custom has a Jatoba fretboard and Grover tuners those two things would probably swing it for me. But I have heard good reviews of the 450 plus so don't be swayed by me. Its really what appeals to you most mattychaddy123, what finish you like etc.
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Post by mattychaddy123 on Jul 30, 2019 20:24:28 GMT
The custom has a Jatoba fretboard and Grover tuners those two things would probably swing it for me. But I have heard good reviews of the 450 plus so don't be swayed by me. Its really what appeals to you most mattychaddy123 , what finish you like etc. ok, thanks for the help.
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Post by LeoThunder on Jul 30, 2019 23:10:20 GMT
Sc custom has slightly better specs and different electronics set up. All depends on what your looking for. im looking for a guitar that i can play rock music and blues with. Any guitar can play that. The SC-450 Plus has a rounded neck heel and a thick body with angles digging in your ribs. The SC-Custom has a square neck heel, a thinner body and a more comfortable rib cutout. Both have the unbalanced, clumsy Les Paul shape and thick, limited sound.
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Post by mattychaddy123 on Jul 30, 2019 23:26:15 GMT
im looking for a guitar that i can play rock music and blues with. Any guitar can play that. The SC-450 Plus has a rounded neck heel and a thick body with angles digging in your ribs. The SC-Custom has a square neck heel, a thinner body and a more comfortable rib cutout. Both have the unbalanced, clumsy Les Paul shape and thick, limited sound. since im ordering online i wont be able to try them. i did get to try an epiphone les paul studio lt at my local guitar store and it was not uncomfortable (it didnt have a rib cutout) and it was fine, although i did only try it for about 15 minutes or so. and they arent the full thickness of a les paul. is the SC-450 the full width of a les paul? and which would you say is the better guitar?
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Post by LeoThunder on Jul 31, 2019 0:00:13 GMT
Any guitar can play that. The SC-450 Plus has a rounded neck heel and a thick body with angles digging in your ribs. The SC-Custom has a square neck heel, a thinner body and a more comfortable rib cutout. Both have the unbalanced, clumsy Les Paul shape and thick, limited sound. since im ordering online i wont be able to try them. i did get to try an epiphone les paul studio lt at my local guitar store and it was not uncomfortable (it didnt have a rib cutout) and it was fine, although i did only try it for about 15 minutes or so. and they arent the full thickness of a les paul. is the SC-450 the full width of a les paul? and which would you say is the better guitar? The SC-450 Plus has the full thickness. I had both and did not really notice the comfort issues at first. One main problem was that they are bottom heavy. Playing sitting, as beginners are bound to do a lot, they always make me feel like they want to drop on the side. It can be fine when sitting on a flat surface like a couch, not so on a chair or stool. Then I really dislike the angle in my ribs. I assume the same would happen with a Telecaster (never had one). Another thing I came to dislike is the short scale, but that's very much a matter of personal habit, having started on a 25.5"/648 mm scale. What really puts me off is the sound. Even split, the Roswell LAF do not have enough high end to my taste and the full humbucker sound is just too "round", stunted beyond what a regular 3-band EQ can salvage. Any of my other humbucker guitars is better in that respect, including the SC-7. This issue will not be present with the SC Custom Active or P90. The SC-Custom is probably marginally better in quality but not in ways that should make a clear decision. Nicer tuners, more luxurious headstock, metal knobs, maybe a finer grade top if a flame is chosen. The rest was equivalent in the guitars I had. The choice is more between the modernised instrument and the vintage replica.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Jul 31, 2019 0:12:11 GMT
I don't find a les paul type guitar shape unbalanced or have problems with digging in my ribs LeoThunder. I don't find the sound limited either that can be adjusted in several ways. Ones bodyshape or physical build may make certain guitars uncomfortable to play. Of course posture is important and if seated the use of a suitable chair or stool.
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Post by LeoThunder on Jul 31, 2019 0:35:22 GMT
I don't find the sound limited either that can be adjusted in several ways. Not with your standard 3-band EQ. The edge is missing and just raising the treble doesn't give it back.
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Post by LeoThunder on Jul 31, 2019 0:47:01 GMT
Of course posture is important and if seated the use of a suitable chair or stool. Unless held in classical position, a bottom heavy guitar must be pushed back down on the neck side. This is an unnecessary additional concern when playing and a rather cumbersome one since my thumb is behind the neck, barely ever on top of it. I never feel free to forget about the thing I'm holding to concentrate on the playing so as a result, I never play that guitar on a chair.
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Jul 31, 2019 1:02:36 GMT
Of course posture is important and if seated the use of a suitable chair or stool. Unless held in classical position, a bottom heavy guitar must be pushed back down on the neck side. This is an unnecessary additional concern when playing and a rather cumbersome one since my thumb is behind the neck, barely ever on top of it. I never feel free to forget about the thing I'm holding to concentrate on the playing so as a result, I never play that guitar on a chair. I've never found that, they sit on my leg OK but I do sometimes use a footstool depending on the height of the seat. I have 2 LP type guitars one the epiphone with quite hot pick ups which I fitted a treble bleed to. And the Sc550 which I am still debating if I need to fit a treble bleed. The LAF Roswell pups are a lot lower output and clean up quite well. But I use od and treble boost pedals most of the time and get very good tones out of the Sc. Again the amp, speaker cab pedals etc are all part of the chain and colour the sound accordingly. As you say LeoThunder it's a personal thing we all have different tastes.
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Post by LeoThunder on Jul 31, 2019 1:41:07 GMT
Unless held in classical position, a bottom heavy guitar must be pushed back down on the neck side. This is an unnecessary additional concern when playing and a rather cumbersome one since my thumb is behind the neck, barely ever on top of it. I never feel free to forget about the thing I'm holding to concentrate on the playing so as a result, I never play that guitar on a chair. I've never found that, they sit on my leg OK but I do sometimes use a footstool depending on the height of the seat. I have 2 LP type guitars one the epiphone with quite hot pick ups which I fitted a treble bleed to. And the Sc550 which I am still debating if I need to fit a treble bleed. The LAF Roswell pups are a lot lower output and clean up quite well. But I use od and treble boost pedals most of the time and get very good tones out of the Sc. Again the amp, speaker cab pedals etc are all part of the chain and colour the sound accordingly. As you say LeoThunder it's a personal thing we all have different tastes. The frequencies are there or not. It's not a matter of personal taste if you have to use additional overdrive and boosting devices to get the edge you want. The matter of taste is only if one likes that "rounded" sound, the same way some people also like a P bass (which I don't, for the very same reason). But then I'm also the kind who doesn't like Bach's music on a piano (same problem). I find my SC-7 is perfectly balanced, thanks to the 27" scale. I also feel a lot better with such a dimension. I really ought to sell that SC-450 Plus.
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