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Post by salteedog on Feb 5, 2019 10:41:55 GMT
How about analogue tubes? Anyone? Technically it's a nice idea but I feel does not meet the 'MAYA' conditions for it's target market. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 11:53:11 GMT
I suspect they've overdesigned the look of them, salteedog , to make them stand out. If they made them look more like tubes and glowed in the acceptable colour they'd get more take up. My two Behringer valve preamps and the Blackstar HT Dual all had orange LED bulbs in them just so they would glow and give the owner 'warm tube loveliness'. Twaddle. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 12:04:19 GMT
Im yet to try out that Kemper amp and hear for me self but boy does that cost money, like MONEY-MONEY! I would like to try those Jet City tubes. Sure if it gives out that sag and warmness, and sizzlness, that boiling-notes-tone, Im all in!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 12:11:08 GMT
Only available as pre-amp tube replacements at the moment though - the parts that normally live forever anyway - but it sounds as though they are working on power tube replacements too, which could be interesting. I like that you can choose cool or hot as well. I wonder whether there would be far greater consistency across all of them than there is with tubes? And whether there's be no more need for biasing if they get power tubes created.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 12:11:34 GMT
I suspect they've overdesigned the look of them, salteedog , to make them stand out. If they made them look more like tubes and glowed in the acceptable colour they'd get more take up. My two Behringer valve preamps and the Blackstar HT Dual all had orange LED bulbs in them just so they would glow and give the owner 'warm tube loveliness'. Twaddle. If looks are so not important to you then please throw away that Tele and play a Warlock guitar instead  I would much prefer to change the irritating blue light on my BugV55 to orange as its indeed is more pleasing. Also those huge On-Off switches on Jet City amps I find irritating and love those nice metal ones on me Bugera. And I LOVE those chicken knobs that @blabklas find irritating  To me its not all about the tone but also how it looks and feels. (but TONE IS KING of course) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 12:21:43 GMT
I love everything about the look of the Bugera V22HD. Absolutely everything...but I'd swap it right now for a Jet City that works.
I read one review of the Jet City where someone found the cloth grille too blue and had to change it because it felt like a toy. Then there's my 100% dislike of every design consideration of the Blackstar ID Core and the Boss Katana. I'd still love them if they made superb sounds but would never warm to them. Sometimes I'm quite taken by strangely ugly. My Tanglewood acoustic looks as though it would be better as a table and my Pacifica always reminded me of G-Plan furniture, but that's actually what endeared me to them. They stood out amongst a lot of blonde spruce tops and sunburst strats. Maybe I even made subconcious connections. That Pacifica, I realised afterwards, reminded me of Roger Hodgson's 70s strat and he's made some of my favourite sounds on his. Maybe I thought I'd be able to make them on mine?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 12:56:15 GMT
Hm, Ject City , yes ,... I did research them and these amos seem to be rather noisy and even a bit nasal sounding. Sure thing all that noisy hiss is no issue LIVE but I mostly focus on RECORDING so amp hiss MUST be minimum, just like on my Bugera V55. Im so on the oposite sied of things; natural finsih a la unmatched toilet seat bodies are just not for me  Even that TE-90FLT with that natural look and that rather anemic looking coat of lacquer is just  I had that guitar and happilly returned it! If Im to ever buy a TE-90FLT it will be the sunburts one as it at least offer some contrast to the eye. |
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Post by salteedog on Feb 5, 2019 13:01:25 GMT
Only available as pre-amp tube replacements at the moment though - the parts that normally live forever anyway - but it sounds as though they are working on power tube replacements too, which could be interesting. I like that you can choose cool or hot as well. I wonder whether there would be far greater consistency across all of them than there is with tubes? And whether there's be no more need for biasing if they get power tubes created. `Yes - the intention is that they be more consistent, reliable and mechanically robust than traditional tubes. The lack of variation will reduce the need for biasing and eliminate the need for matching. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 13:02:06 GMT
Yep, total opposites, Che. I just loathe sunbursts. They remind me of burnt sausages slathered with mustard. Perhaps I need to brush up on my cooking skills and choice of condiments.
By the way, what's an 'unmatched toilet seat'?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 13:05:21 GMT
Only available as pre-amp tube replacements at the moment though - the parts that normally live forever anyway - but it sounds as though they are working on power tube replacements too, which could be interesting. I like that you can choose cool or hot as well. I wonder whether there would be far greater consistency across all of them than there is with tubes? And whether there's be no more need for biasing if they get power tubes created. `Yes - the intention is that they be more consistent, reliable and mechanically robust than traditional tubes. The lack of variation will reduce the need for biasing and eliminate the need for matching. With the massive inconsistency across tubes it amazes me that people are able to recommend the tonal characteristics of any at all.Maybe they chuck away all the ones that make different sounds. Or maybe the biasing has no impact on the tone. I was always led to believe that under biasing leads to less breakup tendency and over biasing leads to more. Perhaps when they are biased just right they all sound the same? Who knows? Not me. |
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Post by salteedog on Feb 5, 2019 13:17:03 GMT
I guess that's the rub @defjef. The inconsistency in tubes pales in the context of the inconsistencies (or rather variations) in people's tastes, ears, playing environments etc.
How often to do read reviews with detailed technical profiles of tube electrical response profiles? They are pointless when most customers are music makers who think in terms of 'tone' and not electrical and acoustic properties and responses.
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Post by roberto on Feb 5, 2019 13:32:33 GMT
Hi, the Quilter is arrived and I have tested it with the new cabinet HB G122 Celestion.
Here my first impression.
Pro: The sound is very close to tube sound. It seem impossible ... the amp it's analog but the overall dinamics and sound is like a tube amp, better than my Bantamp Joyo and far better than my Peavey. It reminds me my old Fender DeLuxe that I sold in the past when I was an emotive boy ... maybe the time hasn't changed my temperament.
Cons: IT's LIGHTER than a light pedal and the plastic pots for Master, Gain and tone stack are orrible and thin without number!!!!
I want to change the pots but i sure keep it... anyway it need a lot of attenction on stage because it's susceptible to damage.
The Youtube videos are close to the sound of the amp in my firsts hours with it... but the overall quality of the sound and tube dinamics of the Quilter you can only taste at home with it and a good cabinet.
The HB G112 Celestion it's awesome and the reviews about it on Thomann site are very good as mine.
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Post by MartinB on Feb 5, 2019 13:38:27 GMT
My old Blues Jr. went up to 12, and had chicken head knobs afaik.
I love the natural look sometimes, my Koa guitar looks a beaut. the DIY Tele, not quite so much but I like it.
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Post by salteedog on Feb 5, 2019 13:48:59 GMT
Hi, the Quilter is arrived and I have tested it with the new cabinet HB G122 Celestion. Here my first impression. Pro: The sound is very close to tube sound. It seem impossible ... the amp it's analog but the overall dinamics and sound is like a tube amp, better than my Bantamp Joyo and far better than my Peavey. It reminds me my old Fender DeLuxe that I sold in the past when I was an emotive boy ... maybe the time hasn't changed my temperament. Cons: IT's LIGHTER than a light pedal and the plastic pots for Master, Gain and tone stack are orrible and thin without number!!!! I want to change the pots but i sure keep it... anyway it need a lot of attenction on stage because it's susceptible to damage. The Youtube videos are close to the sound of the amp in my firsts hours with it... but the overall quality of the sound and tube dinamics of the Quilter you can only taste at home with it and a good cabinet. The HB G112 Celestion it's awesome and the reviews about it on Thomann site are very good as mine. Good stuff. Which model Quilter is it again? |
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Post by blindwilly3fingers on Feb 5, 2019 13:53:08 GMT
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