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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 6:10:14 GMT
I was thinking to use the Bridge pup for in-the-middle position with the Lipstick (or P90 if I so decide) in the neck. I would need to lower the bridge pup a lot to balance the volume somewhat.
Or get 2 Lipsticks! I could take off the copper plate of the Te bridge pup and screw the Lipstick to it which fits the tele bridge plate holes perfectly! Actually I see one can order Te bridge pup copper plates separately.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 8:54:15 GMT
Yes indeed that was my plan to fix the lipstick onto a Tele brass plate! I will not order from US as in that case I must pay customs! My Roadhouse ST harness is solderless which does the same as this quick plug.
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Post by wildturkey on Apr 1, 2018 9:49:09 GMT
I use these for swapping in & out pickups cost about €3 for 10 sets . Use them on ground and jack wires and you can take out your wiring harness for easier soldering. When you get it right ,solder it up as normal. Any electrical store sells them . www.maplin.co.uk/p/maplin-miniature-male-spade-connector10-pack-n10hu Just a few thoughts on the pickups , Try removing the chrome cover on the neck pickup it will make a huge difference. I still have the original Wilkinson in my te 52 with the cover off and it still dont feel the need to change it. If you find the pickups too hot you could take a few hundred winds off the pickup to bring it down to the desired level. I would try this on one of the Roswells or a cheap pickup first just to make sure you can do it right mabye about 500 winds at a time. Have you considered buying an eq pedal . I have been in the same situation so many times , searching for the tone I can never seem to get, buying Pickups after pickups, before I know it having spent as much as I would have spent on a set of Lollars etc. It can be a very expensive learning curve.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 10:10:59 GMT
Have you considered buying an eq pedal . I have been in the same situation so many times , searching for the tone I can never seem to get, buying Pickups after pickups, before I know it having spent as much as I would have spent on a set of Lollars etc. It can be a very expensive learning curve. I have an EQ pedal and I have Bass, Mids, Treble on the amp as well as Presence and Normal and Bright channel and I have a Bass Boost and Tone on my OD pedal and not to forget the American Sound also has Bass, Mids and Treble as well as Voice Knob ah yes even the guitars tone knob too. This is the reason for me going on and on about the Ironstone Silvers which sound good on most EQ settings unlike the TE Ironstone or my china alnicos or china goldfoil or any other HB guitar I had in the past that needed EQing to find the right spot for that very guitar. Also my point about buying cheapo pups all the time and at the end one could have simply invested in the ones tried enough to sound good and balanced. Not sure I have thee money for Lollars but Toneriders seems to get fantastic reviews. For some reason most folks prefer to get hot pickups and hence many brands build such (Hot Specials etc). Its as low output is not fancy these days yet it gives so much character to the tone, reacts very dynamic to ones playing especially finger style. Im not skilled to unwind pickups. I even get panic attack when Im to solder a pickup (need a new soldering iron pronto) I now know what I want tone wise and that low output is the way for me, I just dont know which brand to choose. Must research some more.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 13:52:51 GMT
Still researching what to do ,.. looking at the Dimarzio Twang King neck pickup thats highly regarded over at the Seymour Duncan forum! It sounds much brighter than any other Tele pickup I've heard except the Fishman Fluence maybe.
It would be nice to get a nice balanced Tele sound with pups that dont go too bright or too dull and that have a bit more dynamics. Seems like folks are pairing the Twang King neck with a Seymour Duncan 59 Broadcaster bridge. Will look into this but first buy the Dimarzio neck and see if it fits better with the Ironstone bridge
Twang King (6.2kohm) is not that expensive to give it a try.
I might try the lipstick only if this doesn't work out.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 20:09:08 GMT
It does matter what pot value is in the guitar! Its because of the pots high value, even if you have the pot full on! What you do avoid when pot is full on is the Capacitor! So if I have a dark neck pickup in my Tele I could change the 250K tone pot to a 500K and this alone will already provide less high frequencies being cut to the ground!
This lad explains it in plain English (helpful for dummies like me self) He also explains the Volume pot K value and what it does! I just might use 2 x 500K pots in this Tele! Im just considering whether to use A for Volume and B for Tone! Its nicer to have a A Tone if Im to do wah swells but then the B rolled off tone is sooooo good when you want a clear, non-muddied fuzz like OD!
My cap is .033 so this is dark enough to help cut down the bridge pup or any positions which are too trebly! Maybe I should try this before buying any new pickups?!
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Post by wildturkey on Apr 1, 2018 20:36:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 21:53:14 GMT
I'm with you...sort of. This is why 500 or 300K pots are used on humbuckers and P90s. Trouble for you is the difference between what you are hearing as mud on the neck but too bright already on the bridge. It's still worth a play though. Im not a bridge pup user. I prefer to have a good sounding neck and good sounding middle position. In this case 2 middle positions (parallel and series). If I can get the neck to sing well on the fully open Tone pot I can always cut the highs with the Tone (even with the Volume) pot! Seems like its easiest to cut Treble in a guitar than to add it. All components within a circuit act as resistors which first filter out high freqs!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 7:42:06 GMT
Ah yes, my G&L harness has a PTB circuit and it can cut Lows. Also the Ironstone harness has a cap on the 3rd position to make the Bridge sound very thin (cutting lows and likely mids).
What I meant above is "all NORMALLY used components will cut high freqs".
I dislike the way treble bleeds sound. They too cut low freqs and the tone gets kind of artificial, thin, lifeless to my ear. I will try and focus on the original pickup out put and then try to take out of as little as possible so there is as little high freqs cut to the ground in the first place, instead of trying to add caps later in the circuit to thin out the tone.
Unless this Ironstone neck pup is just muddy when all its natural freqs are sent to the amp, higher number pot should do the trick and let most of the highs from neck pass together with its natural mids and lows resulting in a very rich pickup tone.
Im even tempted to go for 1 Meg pots! I can always lower the bridge pickup and roll it off on the tone pot! If Im getting it right, the pot fully open lets most of the pups freqs through without coloring them, only/mostly removing the highs depending on the pots high value. The higher the value the less highs is being lost (when fully open). This could be it.
I should first test the neck pickup and wire it direct to the jack input to hear how it performs without any other components standing in its way.
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Post by Banana on Apr 3, 2018 8:22:41 GMT
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