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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2018 11:39:12 GMT
Nah, if Im to get a Tele set again I will go for what most seems to like and thats the Twang King from Dimarzio for neck and S. Duncan Broadcaster bridge. I will go for the tried by many. Cant keep spilling my money (that I dont have) on cheaper pups just to end up spending the amount that could have bought me a well tested ones. Nothing to do with brand names but with most reviews being happy with them. The ones I mentioned above seem to get ONLY great reviews. But I will give this a rest for a while and decide later what to do. This guitar has such fine unplugged sound and sustain and overtones, it deserves good pups that can translate that when plugged in!
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Post by MartinB on Apr 3, 2018 13:42:20 GMT
Nah, if Im to get a Tele set again I will go for what most seems to like and thats the Twang King from Dimarzio for neck and S. Duncan Broadcaster bridge. I will go for the tried by many. Cant keep spilling my money (that I dont have) on cheaper pups just to end up spending the amount that could have bought me a well tested ones. Nothing to do with brand names but with most reviews being happy with them. The ones I mentioned above seem to get ONLY great reviews. But I will give this a rest for a while and decide later what to do. This guitar has such fine unplugged sound and sustain and overtones, it deserves good pups that can translate that when plugged in! I thought broadcasters were relatively hot?
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Post by DefJef on Apr 3, 2018 14:15:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2018 15:22:46 GMT
That article states that Broadcaster pups can make a bright guitar sound just right! Thats good enough for me. The Twang King seems to be the one neck pup that gets best reviews. Most people dislike the muddy neck tone and seem to be happy with the Twang King. Not sure what to do ... Bridge is too bright and neck too dark. As I mentioned before the in Series N-B sound the best but in this case I have a one trick pony. Not really what I was after. Will rest this one, go to Morocco forget about pickups and gear and when Im back I will play this Tele again and make my final decision.
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Post by lickosaurus on Apr 3, 2018 15:30:13 GMT
Ah yes, my G&L harness has a PTB circuit and it can cut Lows. Also the Ironstone harness has a cap on the 3rd position to make the Bridge sound very thin (cutting lows and likely mids). What I meant above is "all NORMALLY used components will cut high freqs". I dislike the way treble bleeds sound. They too cut low freqs and the tone gets kind of artificial, thin, lifeless to my ear. I will try and focus on the original pickup out put and then try to take out of as little as possible so there is as little high freqs cut to the ground in the first place, instead of trying to add caps later in the circuit to thin out the tone. Unless this Ironstone neck pup is just muddy when all its natural freqs are sent to the amp, higher number pot should do the trick and let most of the highs from neck pass together with its natural mids and lows resulting in a very rich pickup tone. Im even tempted to go for 1 Meg pots! I can always lower the bridge pickup and roll it off on the tone pot! If Im getting it right, the pot fully open lets most of the pups freqs through without coloring them, only/mostly removing the highs depending on the pots high value. The higher the value the less highs is being lost (when fully open). This could be it. I should first test the neck pickup and wire it direct to the jack input to hear how it performs without any other components standing in its way. The capacitor acts as a filter that only passes through a part of the signal to the ground on the other end. The pot is basically a faucet and the value basically tells you how leaky the pot is with tone at 10. A 500 k ohm pot is less leaky than a 250 k one, so you loose less highs from the signal to the ground when the tone is at 10 with a higher value pot. That’s basically why one perceives a 500 k pot as being brighter, you just loose less highs from your signal when you think you ought not be loosing any.
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Post by wildturkey on Apr 3, 2018 15:39:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2018 15:58:06 GMT
I will wait and see what to do. Sometimes its best to go away from the axe and come back to it in a week or so. This guitar has such nice sustain and is very playable so Im sure it will be one of my main guitars. I care little it has a Tele shape! I have no issues placing strange non-tele pickups into it just to get a tone that makes want to play it all the time.
I can always cut the bridge plate in half for lets say a P90 to be screwed into the body. I have seen teles with just a half plate where the saddles are, and the bridge pup was screwed direct into the body. Might even go with a 3 pickup configuration on this one as the selector is 5 ways and the bridge half-out-of-faze is nothing for me. The middle could be a Goldfoil (must find one that doesn't cost a fortune).
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Post by Banana on Apr 4, 2018 6:43:18 GMT
I still think that you are better off getting a CST
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 21:45:18 GMT
I have been researching some more (we had two rainy days in Marrakech) and I'm seriously considering to get the DiMarzio DP240 Mini Humbucker for the neck! All I read about it is 100% positive and most use it in their Teles as a fantastic companion to the Tele bridge pickup! Never played minis before.
This one has 4 wires which could be interesting with my 5 way switch! I need a diagram for 5 way switch and mini Humbucker in the neck!
It's a ceramic vintage pup! Apparently bright but not harsh sounding in the neck! This could be it!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 15:09:41 GMT
Before I went to my vacation I found a web site of a pickup maker (can't find the link now and forgot the brand name). He suggested different pup heights than usual recommendation. Neck very close to the strings and bridge further away. Also pups closer to the low strings and further away from high strings.
I have promised myself when I come back to only play the Tele with this new pup height for a few days and stay away from my Strat. Played yesterday and today for a few hours. Was enjoying myself which is already a good sign! The low E string still remains woody and thumpy. Maybe that's what Tele is suppose to sound like on the low E?
Instead of buying a new pup I will get a new OD pedal the TC Mojo Mojo and see if that works well with this axe.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 23:08:45 GMT
Decided to plug the TE70 direct into the amp, no pedals! (blasphemy) Played around and the tone was muddy on the neck still. I keep the Master Volume at maximum and then dial in the Clean Volume to adjust the overall desired volume. Tonight I tried to do the opposite and BOOM what a beautiful clean tone! This amp actually sounds great clean and this Tele too! The neck pup just ah, so sweet! Seems like the Master Volume acts like a Tone knob too!!! The more you crank it the more muddy it gets! The Clean Volume also seems to have Tone properties, the more you crank it the more treble it introduces! For this Tele with Ironstone I need the Clean knob higher than the Master to get a fine tone! Works great with the OD this way as well! Oh man what a journey to get this Tele sound right!.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 7:43:13 GMT
I think that Master cranking comes from BB King on his LAB amp.
What cap is in the BL wiring?
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